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A small amount of Cleveland bashing is taking place over on that thread.
I don't see too much bashing, just unrelated BS artists releasing their excess windages on strangers.
Amazing how many experts appear that have never owned one?
I'll probably get the quote wrong but the idea is correct. Opinions are like an ass. Everyone has one and they all stink?
Whatever. It comes down to you are either going to buy the car or not. Obviously the people who complain the hardest are not likely going to be your customer, so don't worry about them?
Seems like a nice car. I'm curious to see what it gets bid up to?
Amazing how many experts appear that have never owned one?
I'll probably get the quote wrong but the idea is correct. Opinions are like an ass. Everyone has one and they all stink?
Whatever. It comes down to you are either going to buy the car or not. Obviously the people who complain the hardest are not likely going to be your customer, so don't worry about them?
Seems like a nice car. I'm curious to see what it gets bid up to?
Sold.....$74,100
Click on the link. The comment/bid section is notable.
What a bunch of chumps? Comical. The only smart one is the buyer.
quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
What a bunch of chumps? Comical. The only smart one is the buyer.
Hello Doug; I was thinking just the opposite, as I believe the "smart one" is the seller.
As I believe the buyer over paid at $74,100.00 USD.
Well look around and check out the asking prices for one thing.
The seller did ok but considering what he is talking about replacing the car with...
...and the new owner will be showing up here soon so you can tell him that yourself I'm sure.
As I said.
The seller did ok but considering what he is talking about replacing the car with...
...and the new owner will be showing up here soon so you can tell him that yourself I'm sure.
As I said.
Hey Doug; A question... "If" you had a choice of either the two...quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Well look around and check out the asking prices for one thing.
The seller did ok but considering what he is talking about replacing the car with...
...and the new owner will be showing up here soon so you can tell him that yourself I'm sure.
As I said.
Do you buy this example and SAVE $24,100.00?!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-D...rksid=p2047675.l2557
I'm not buying or selling at the moment, just observing.
As always "you" make your best deal but I don't think prices are on the way down on these cars at all. The "trend" is definitely up.
The problem I think is that the prices have always been too low on them and the wrong people bought them for the wrong reasons?
What happens I think, is when a car crosses a certain price level a new type of buyer appears.
The higher they go up, sales don't go down, they go up simply because the car is proving it is a good investment. They are proving to be greatly undervalued at the moment I think?
I'm just here "enjoying the trip". Enjoy yours.
As always "you" make your best deal but I don't think prices are on the way down on these cars at all. The "trend" is definitely up.
The problem I think is that the prices have always been too low on them and the wrong people bought them for the wrong reasons?
What happens I think, is when a car crosses a certain price level a new type of buyer appears.
The higher they go up, sales don't go down, they go up simply because the car is proving it is a good investment. They are proving to be greatly undervalued at the moment I think?
I'm just here "enjoying the trip". Enjoy yours.
quote:Originally posted by speedunlimited:Hey Doug; A question... "If" you had a choice of either the two...quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Well look around and check out the asking prices for one thing.
The seller did ok but considering what he is talking about replacing the car with...
...and the new owner will be showing up here soon so you can tell him that yourself I'm sure.
As I said.
Do you buy this example and SAVE $24,100.00?!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-D...rksid=p2047675.l2557
I don't think it's fair to compare stock bodied cars to ones with body kits. Two different animals in my mind. I understand the cost of the kits but that does not always enter into the formula when it comes to selling from what I see. Interesting sales non the less.
Keith.
Hello Keith; Understand your point completely as well as Doug's.quote:Originally posted by kghills:quote:Originally posted by speedunlimited:Hey Doug; A question... "If" you had a choice of either the two...quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Well look around and check out the asking prices for one thing.
The seller did ok but considering what he is talking about replacing the car with...
...and the new owner will be showing up here soon so you can tell him that yourself I'm sure.
As I said.
Do you buy this example and SAVE $24,100.00?!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-D...rksid=p2047675.l2557
I don't think it's fair to compare stock bodied cars to ones with body kits. Two different animals in my mind. I understand the cost of the kits but that does not always enter into the formula when it comes to selling from what I see. Interesting sales non the less.
Keith.
Certain cars seem undiscovered as an example Dino Ferraris about 6 years ago when an they were sub-$100,000.00...now $400,000.00.
and you're right in regards to comparing relatively stock Panteras to one's with body kits.
Maybe I need to clear my nasal passages & smell the roses as to the "discovery" & subsequent rise in valuation of the DeTomaso Pantera brand.
One suggestion I will pass along is with numbers matching engines garnering a premium to collectors & the inexpensive cost of a 351C block, do as I did & remove ( if you have) the numbers matching engine) prep the engine for storage & build up another Cleveland to run in the car.
Numbers matching engines in a Pantera are easy. Stamp the number into the rear of the block.
I had to laugh Doug!..as I also belong to a corvette form, where the joke is..."There are more matching numbers big block 427 engines NOW, then came from the factory"...inconsequential when it happens in a Cosworth Vega, substantially greater financial ramifications when referencing a 1967-1969 Corvette L88 engine.quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Numbers matching engines in a Pantera are easy. Stamp the number into the rear of the block.
The Pantera just has the "engine number" stamped into a boss on the back of the block above the bellhouse.
Most people just overlook it and don't know what it is. It should match the engine number tag on the car.
I thought there were more 67 435hp Coupes, side exhaust, knock off wheels now then were ever built and everything matches?
One thing that is probably assured, there will never be more Panteras now than were ever built to begin with?
Most people just overlook it and don't know what it is. It should match the engine number tag on the car.
I thought there were more 67 435hp Coupes, side exhaust, knock off wheels now then were ever built and everything matches?
One thing that is probably assured, there will never be more Panteras now than were ever built to begin with?
This car was posted for sale back in July on Craigslist-Monterey for $44.5K without the front bumper attached, nice profit to the seller in 5 months!
quote:Originally posted by Tim S:
This car was posted for sale back in July on Craigslist-Monterey for $44.5K without the front bumper attached, nice profit to the seller in 5 months!
Panteras are being "discovered". He may have even sold too soon?
Pantera Doug I agree with you. That 73 Pantera sold for a good price for the buyer. That is a nice car, looked clean with good upgrades. Everyone has their preference on what they want on their car. I saw a 71 Pantera sell for $33,000. It had alot of rust, engine needed work as did the transaxle. Also the interior was bad. To get that car up to the condition that 73 is would be quite a bit more than $74,000. A perfect show car usually sells for over $100,000. A driver with upgrades can be anywhere from $40k to $85k depending on what is done. I think Panteras are under valued. It's not cheap to rebuild a Pantera right. They're really nice, fun cars when done with good upgrades. But everyone has their taste on what they want.