Announced as:
"Body is very straight with no dents, no scratches, no rust anywhere. Rockers show original weld points and drains and no rust. Floors and sub frames all original and solid."
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quote:Originally posted by tschnoeck:
Announced as:
"Body is very straight with no dents, no scratches, no rust anywhere. Rockers show original weld points and drains and no rust. Floors and sub frames all original and solid."
WTF?! Did a seller make that statement when selling you the car, then you discovered this mess when it arrived? Outrageous!
quote:Originally posted by garth66:WTF?! Did a seller make that statement when selling you the car, then you discovered this mess when it arrived? Outrageous!
Exactly. This is an original excerpt of the seller's text... ;-) The whole frame looks like this.
But: "Challenge accepted". Restoration has been started and is making good progress. Complete rear frame has been replaced already. Restoration of engine is nearly completed, too.
Perfect example why a PPI ( Pre Purchase Inspection) is mandatory.
Had this almost happen to myself on a 1969 Jaguar XKE FHC ( Fixed Head Coupe), I purchased from eBay.
Flew from San Francisco to Nebraska to personally inspect the Jaguar prior to finalizing the payment, let's just say the Jaguar was NOT as described & purchase price was adjusted accordingly.
Understand your position being different, logistics wise.
I've joined various car clubs prior to purchasing my car/s of interest & paid various highly knowledgeable car owners to do a PPI for me.
Had Excellent results following this procedure.
Had this almost happen to myself on a 1969 Jaguar XKE FHC ( Fixed Head Coupe), I purchased from eBay.
Flew from San Francisco to Nebraska to personally inspect the Jaguar prior to finalizing the payment, let's just say the Jaguar was NOT as described & purchase price was adjusted accordingly.
Understand your position being different, logistics wise.
I've joined various car clubs prior to purchasing my car/s of interest & paid various highly knowledgeable car owners to do a PPI for me.
Had Excellent results following this procedure.
Tim I'm sorry your Pantera has these rust issues you weren't expecting. I applaud your positive attitude. Best wishes for a good outcome.
What is done is done. I quess there are plenty of Pantera owners (I´m one of them) who feel like it would be so much easier to go and buy that second Pantera. You would know what to do and what to search for and where. Good luck and keep up the good working mood.
Overhauled and reconstructed rear frame. Photo 
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Overhauled and reconstructed rear frame. Photo #2
Beautiful work and great attitude! You're an inspiration.
Have you also owned Ford Mustangs?
If so what year/s & model/s?
If so what year/s & model/s?
Hey Speed,
Good suggestion on the PPI - I never buy a car sight unseen. Just too risky! Airfare is cheap insurance against making a costly purchase mistake.
BTW, who are you asking about owning a Mustang? I have two - a 66 GT Fastback I'm currently restoring (actually resto-modding), and a 70 Mach 1 that's my next project (it's currently a shell on wheels). As a matter of fact, when my Pantera swallowed it's air cleaner stud I put the fresh Mach 1 engine in to break it in in the Pantera so I could continue enjoying the car while I rebuild the Pantera engine, AGAIN!
Good suggestion on the PPI - I never buy a car sight unseen. Just too risky! Airfare is cheap insurance against making a costly purchase mistake.
BTW, who are you asking about owning a Mustang? I have two - a 66 GT Fastback I'm currently restoring (actually resto-modding), and a 70 Mach 1 that's my next project (it's currently a shell on wheels). As a matter of fact, when my Pantera swallowed it's air cleaner stud I put the fresh Mach 1 engine in to break it in in the Pantera so I could continue enjoying the car while I rebuild the Pantera engine, AGAIN!
Hello Garth; I saw that tschnoeck had a Mustang Pony emblem on his garage wall, thus the reason for my inquiry.quote:Originally posted by garth66:
Hey Speed,
Good suggestion on the PPI - I never buy a car sight unseen. Just too risky! Airfare is cheap insurance against making a costly purchase mistake.
BTW, who are you asking about owning a Mustang? I have two - a 66 GT Fastback I'm currently restoring (actually resto-modding), and a 70 Mach 1 that's my next project (it's currently a shell on wheels). As a matter of fact, when my Pantera swallowed it's air cleaner stud I put the fresh Mach 1 engine in to break it in in the Pantera so I could continue enjoying the car while I rebuild the Pantera engine, AGAIN!
Always liked the 69-70 Mach 1.
Wish that Ford would have combined the rear fender scoop of the 69 & the louvered headlamp surrounds of the 70.
PLUS the "Shaker Hood"!!!
I passed on a Highly Optioned 69 Mach 1 "S" code ( 390 CI) 4 speed in Calypso Coral, original owner,located in Seline, Kansas 3 years ago for the sale price of $18,800.00.
In retrospect...."Stupidly" passed on the car!
That one still Haunts Me!
After that debacle, I purchased a 1973 Mach 1 Cobra Jet, factory 4 high, "Highly Optioned", original owner car that was purchased from the Ford dealership in Santa Clara, Ca. & the owner lived in Santa Clara, Ca.
Paid the money for the Deluxe Marti report & the Mach 1 turned out to be a "1" of "1"!!!
Car is 100% original down to still having the factory carb & dual point distributor!
Overhauled and reconstructed rear frame. Photo #2
Man, that is beautiful work.
With that skill set, that Pantera is obviously just where she is supposed to be.
Well Done!!
Larry
Man, that is beautiful work.
With that skill set, that Pantera is obviously just where she is supposed to be.
Well Done!!
Larry
quote:Overhauled and reconstructed rear frame. Photo #2
Man, that is beautiful work.
With that skill set, that Pantera is obviously just where she is supposed to be.
Well Done!!
Here, here!
Wow. Groovy skills.
quote:Originally posted by speedunlimited:
I saw that tschnoeck had a Mustang Pony emblem on his garage wall, thus the reason for my inquiry.
Hello speed!
Yes, I do have a 66 Mustang. Nothing fancy, a regular 289 coupe, used as a daily driver. I really enjoy starting up the V8 with a big fat smile on my face every morning... :-)
But, my big love is my 63 Corvette Split Window Coupe.
The photos with the pony sign have been made in the garage of a friend of mine. He is specialized in repairing and restoring classic cars, especially U.S. cars. So, the credit for the beautiful work should go to him...
So, if you will ever breakdown with your car in or around Berlin, Germany: He is the guy to call... ;-)
Have a phantastic weekend!
Tim
WOW!!!!!...A "Split Window"!!!...if it's a "fuelie" or an L76 code, then I think you should adopt me!!!
I Stupidly Passed on a 63 Split Window in Saddle Tan/Saddle Tan ( only two years for Saddle Tan/Saddle Tan 1963 & 1964) about 12 years ago for $35,000.00 USD because it was an automatic!
Did you find the tank sheet for your Split?
Does your Split have the Kelsey Hayes knock offs?
What is the story behind your acquisition of the Split Window?
I APPLAUD your tastes in cars!!!
I Stupidly Passed on a 63 Split Window in Saddle Tan/Saddle Tan ( only two years for Saddle Tan/Saddle Tan 1963 & 1964) about 12 years ago for $35,000.00 USD because it was an automatic!
Did you find the tank sheet for your Split?
Does your Split have the Kelsey Hayes knock offs?
What is the story behind your acquisition of the Split Window?
I APPLAUD your tastes in cars!!!
quote:Originally posted by speedunlimited:
if it's a "fuelie"
No fuelie, no knock-off wheels. ;-)
New front wall cross member...
Inner and outer rocker panels, including the notorious inner rocker enforcement panels will be finished tomorrow.
Inner and outer rocker panels, including the notorious inner rocker enforcement panels will be finished tomorrow.
What source/s are you utilizing to acquire the necessary body panels & frame members?
Speed, now that your rear subframes are replaced, drill the mandatory 3 drain holes per side in each frame rail plus a hole in the very bottom of each leg of the 'horseshoe' that mounts the rear suspension. Driving in wet weather (I've been in Germany!) will fill the frame rails with water thrown up by the wheels and the rails are nearly water-tight except for the big holes in the frame tops (which is how water, dirt and dropped bolts all get inside).
We use 1/2" holes in the frame and 3/8" in the horseshoe legs. After drilling, touch up the edges of the fresh holes; some go further by corking up the new holes and filling the frame rails with a few qts of old drain oil. then pulling the cork(s) and letting the frame holes drip-dry.
We use 1/2" holes in the frame and 3/8" in the horseshoe legs. After drilling, touch up the edges of the fresh holes; some go further by corking up the new holes and filling the frame rails with a few qts of old drain oil. then pulling the cork(s) and letting the frame holes drip-dry.
Thanks a lot for the hint. Will do so!!