Throttle Cable!

Dennis, My 71 had an piece that srcewed on the ends of the cable and snapped on to a ball at the pedal and another at the carb. It came off a couple of times, when I stomped it. Finally I got 2 ends thst the ball was part of the end from NAPA part stores. I had to use a nut on the point at the card, and down at the pedal I removed the ball and screwed the threads into the side of the pedal. Now it is fixed and I'm just waiting for sombody, I hope it ain't no F430

My daughter actualy snapped the original gas pedal in half. I had to put a new pedal and cable in. NOw I have to adjust it as it only opens the primaries and not the secondaries. WHich should give me a big horsepower increase once I correct it.

I've been known to hit the accellerator hard DT but I never snapped the pedal. How do you do that?
I believe that a 10-32 #3 rod end will thread right on to the cable ends.

Good ingenuity Dennis, that's using your head.

I'll have to toast your promotion soon, 400 posts, way to go.

George

Good news!
My car is back on the road!
I think the throttle breaking was a good thing, cause by fixing
it back the way it was I found out that the secondaries aren't opening up at all.
Cable reach was not enough, another project!
More power!!!
F430 were are you now!

A similar event happened to me. In my case it was found that I have half a brain. Immagine what I could do with a whole one?
It sounds like you must be using a carb with mechanical secondaries like a Holler 4779?
If you run a Holley with vacuum secondaries like a 3310, your problem would be less of a problem. For me it wouldn't matter, I'd still be nuts.
Maks sure that you have the special Pantera carb throttle adaptor. That can make a difference if you are missing it.
Sad to say that there are also several different throttle cables. That can make a difference also. I don't know which one is best.
It went to 7 degrees F here last night (outside). I've had seven cats pick me to move in with. I wonder if it has anything to do with my Pantera and all of these Isis logos all over the place?

Doug
I am using a Demon carb!
Took all the cables and links off, I am
just not getting the correct amount of
action from the throttle cable.
I am going to change the throttle assembly.
The previous owner replaced the carb, but didn't
do any modifing to the throttles cable
reach.
What is a Pantera carb throttle adaptor?
Seven degrees huh!
I have a good feeling it's the car.
Dennis

7 degrees was Saturday night. It's warmer this AM, it's 18F.
I am not familiar with the Demon carb. If it is a Holley derivative, then it needs a Holley type connection.
I don't have my Holley stuff available to give you a picture of the Pantera adapter for it. I'm sure that someone here can help you with that.
The Holley comes in two variaties. Mechanical secondary and vacuum secondary. The Motorcraft is just vacuum secondary. The Pantera adapter lets your throttle cable pull the carb throttle open rather then push it from behind.
There is only so much travel that the cable and the pedal, for that matter, have in them. If the cable is working freely and not binding then the culprit is the carb. You have to modify, synchronize, the throttle arm on that to work with your cable.
That's only one carb Dennis, it isn't like you have four Webers working in place of one carb. This isn't like Rubic's cube ya' know. OOP, gotta go chase the Polar bears away from the Pantera...

Doug
Never thought of the problems the four webbers
would have!
What a nightmare that would be, im having problems with one.
The Demon carb has a mechanical secondaries.
We dont have bear problems around here!
Im more worried about those god dam kangaroo's, if they manage to get
your car you dont know how far they can hop away with it!
Just heard a hop!!
dennis

Wow, glad we got non of them kangaroo's. The dam penquins huddle around the car. If it's really cold they like to slide down the roof and hood. They gang up on you and peck at the tires.
Ever get a penquin stuck in your velocity stack? It isn' a pretty site.

Have you ever seen an emu!
They can move so fast, I had one over take me the other day I was so embarassed!

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Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
I've been known to hit the accellerator hard DT but I never snapped the pedal. How do you do that?
I believe that a 10-32 #3 rod end will thread right on to the cable ends.

Well my daughter is on the strong side. She was in the Junior olypics. She had never driven a manual choke car before and wanted to start it and hear it run with the new engine in it. SO my son told her to make sure to press the gas ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR once. She did, after it snapped in half to make it all the way.
Yep, she is pretty strong, my daughter.

Downunder, I'm also using a Demon. You can make your own throttle adapter. I used a piece of stainless steel. The key is to maximize travel given the restraints of the "swing" of the adapter. I can shoot some pics if you're interested.

DU, Is an Emu an SUV?
DT, is your daughter a shot putter? I had one of those break the door hinges.
Yikes!

I have just started to have problems with the throttle sticking. I have to pull the accelerator pedal back with my foot. I put in a Holley 650 double-pumper last spring and everything was fine. By the Fall it started to stick.
Should I look at replacing the cable or just need to look into an adapter?

Try some lube in the cable, somthing light. i had to double up my return springs. Then fixed it with a cable. You need a good reliable cable with the ends made like my earlier post on this thread.

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DT, is your daughter a shot putter? I had one of those break the door hinges.
Yikes!

Nope, she did the race walking thing. Finished 15th in the country. So she didn't go to the world olymics. No she had been doing weight training though. She is pretty good at all kinds of sports though. Always has been. Just comes natural for her.

quote:

Originally posted by new & slow:
I have just started to have problems with the throttle sticking. I have to pull the accelerator pedal back with my foot. I put in a Holley 650 double-pumper last spring and everything was fine. By the Fall it started to stick.
Should I look at replacing the cable or just need to look into an adapter?

Are you sure the throttle return spring is hooked up?

The throttle cable actually has it's own return spring on it. Disconnect the end at the carb and try the throttle (accellerator pedal). Does it work correctly?
If it doesn't snap back immediately. The problem is the cable.
Put some lubrication in it. If the steel wire going into the sheathing is rust or gummed up, use WD40. This will tend to loosen up the crud on the wire. You will need to lube it with motorcycle cable lube.
If it is still binding, it may be pinched where it passes through the bulkhead from the passenger compartment to the engine.
It has to make nearly a 90 degree turn there and this is often a place of interference.
Sometimes rerouting the cable a little helps.
If it is the cable itself that is binding, replace the entire unit. They are about $130.
Do not put high tentioned return springs on the carb more then you have to. Yo can twist the throttle shaft, and wear out the shaft bushings prematurely.

When the throttle on 6018 got sticky, the cable wasn't the culprit, it was the shaft the throttle pedal pivots on. I spritzed it on both sides with some WD40 and all was well.

The 30 year old grease on the Pantera will gum up, especially in cooler weather. The solvents in WD40 help dissolve the gum. When regreasing a part, I recommend a synthetic grease. I've been using Mobil 1 grease in a variety of applications & am satisfied with the results.

Your freind on the DTBB, George

Now you know how I plan to double my horsepower this winter.

quote:

Originally posted by Husker:
Downunder, I'm also using a Demon. You can make your own throttle adapter. I used a piece of stainless steel. The key is to maximize travel given the restraints of the "swing" of the adapter. I can shoot some pics if you're interested.

Husker
I would very appreciative if you could take some
photo's for me!
Dennis