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'Where Have All Our Leaders Gone?'


Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from
it's death throes? He has a new book, and here are some excerpts.
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Lee Iacocca Says: 'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up
with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should
be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos
steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate
gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a
hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad,
everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say,
'Stay the course'

Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not
the damned 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the
bums out!'

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker,
and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize
this country anymore.

The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the
guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East
is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is
waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the
promise of the 'America' my parents and yours traveled across the
ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're
not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have.

The Biggest 'C' is Crisis !

Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of
crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and
talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've
never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when
your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any
other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out
of the ashes. A Hell of a Mess

So here's where we stand. We're immersed in a bloody war with no
plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest
deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing
edge to Asia, while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered
by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in
power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our
borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every
which way. These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the
leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where
are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence,
and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think
you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security
than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away
our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new
bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have
already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane
Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the
response to the hurricane, or demanding accountability for the
decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm.

Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen
again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make
a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how
we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would
have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three'
referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more
important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying
down the debt, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health
care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises
that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to
sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our
democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced
with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead
on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you
guys show some spine for a change?

Had Enough?

Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm
trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope. I
believe in America. In my lifetime I've had the privilege of living
through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced
some of our worst crises: the 'Great Depression', 'World War II',
the 'Korean War', the 'Kennedy Assassination', the 'Vietnam War',
the 1970s oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating
with 9/11.

If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere
by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take
action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better
future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the
challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a call to 'Action' for
people who, like me, believe in America. It's not too late, but
it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to
work. Let's tell 'em all we've had 'enough.'

Excerpted from 'Where Have All the Leaders Gone?'. Copyright (c) 2007 by
Lee
Iacocca. All rights reserved.
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I ran the quote through Snopes and it is true - from his book.

It still amazes me that there is anyone in this country that still doesn't KNOW the Bush Administration has REALLY FOULED UP THIS COUNTRY.

If you aren't outraged, you have NOT been paying attention.

One of the bumper stickers on my F-150 (a Union made in America vehicle!!) says it all...

I don't have to like Bush to love my Country.

If I was a praying man, I'd pray for him to drop dead.

Larry

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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
I ran the quote through Snopes and it is true - from his book.

It still amazes me that there is anyone in this country that still doesn't KNOW the Bush Administration has REALLY FOULED UP THIS COUNTRY.

If you aren't outraged, you have NOT been paying attention.

One of the bumper stickers on my F-150 (a Union made in America vehicle!!) says it all...

I don't have to like Bush to love my Country.

If I was a praying man, I'd pray for him to drop dead.

Larry


Some people - including me - would say that if you've got to resort to saying "F***" to express yourself, you may be part of the incommunicative wrong. There's no place for that here.

Some people - including me - might consider wishing death to the current president as treason at most or short-sighted at least. "Oh it's just a phrase" you say, "don't get so worked up". Words kill.

Hard to imagine that one man's death will lead to peace in the valley. Hasn't worked for a few millenia.

Back to the topic: Those who COULD lead seem to be cowering under the PC notions that they don't want to deflect anyone's rights, religion, race (the 'new' 3 Rs) their political slant, economic background, and Lord help us - their self esteem. Please.

I wasn't that darn crazy about Iacocca AFTER Chrysler (loved him for saving that company and what/how he did it) but the excerpt is dead on. Hopefully some 'leaders' will read it, wake up, and behave like an American. Great clip, thanks for sharing.
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Larry,
Do not worry. When the Hilda Beast is elected you will get what you want.

No military.
Socialized Medicine.
Legalization of all illegals in our country.
God removed from our currency and every where else.
Want more ????????????

I do not agree with many Bush decisions or policies. But he inherited the disgraceful presidency of Bill Clinton. Many of our problems began with him. Not to mention the acceleration of the moral decay of our society.

I pray every day that H. Clinton is not elected. If she is elected it will be the end of United States as a democratic, moral and free country.
quote - As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, “ Flip Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.” - end quote.

Full story here:

http://tinyurl.com/5y7n5

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Hard to imagine that one man's death will lead to peace in the valley. Hasn't worked for a few millenia.


How true, but remember it was Bush who seemed to think one man's death, Saddam, was going to bring democracy to Iraq. Sorta didn't work out according to his plan, did it?

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Words kill.

Perhaps, but not nearly as well as a war based on lies.

A war with no end.

A war with no chance of victory, whatever that means to the people that insist on it continuing.

Our War on Terror total, according to the Washington Post Faces of the Fallen -

3,915 in Iraq

475 in Afghanistan

Total = 4,390

Support our troops -

BRING THEM HOME!!

Larry

And you don't want to get me going on Katrina/New Orleans, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, or Bush's National Guard Record.....

The worst President I've seen, and I've seen some doozies.
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Spoken like man. And Lee is the man.

But I'll tell you why the real men will never make it to office. Because they could never survive the scrutiny of the press and the congressional committees.

Real men inhale, follow their gut, believe their emotions, take chances, make mistakes, step on toes and change their minds.

Their is no room for real men (or women) in politics today. Our know-it-all government wimps and a mindless, jealous, fearful public don't bother to hammer the press for wasting our time with stupidity but then shout with glee when public exposure brings successful men to their knees.

And it's not Bush's fault. Who voted for Ross Perrot or Ralph Nader - and who will vote for Ron Paul?
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But I'll tell you why the real men will never make it to office.


Never give up believing that a real man could make it to office.

2008 is the year you get to choose and the people take back the USA from the pencil pushing liars in office now. Dont forget to vote .. if you sit back and dont vote you have no right to speak.
And bring home the young guys and gals who he put in IRAQ.

Ron
Our loss of leadership isn't a Bush phenomena. It isn't restricted to our national elected leaders and their appointed staff members; state and local elected officials are also part of the problem.

Can a real "leader" get elected/appointed in this day and age? I believe they can, but the respective dominant parties want to bend all of the candidates every which way in order to appeal to more voters.

The parties are the problem. They don't want what is best for the electorate; they only want to be in charge. All you have to do is to look at voting records that are split along party lines - how is that possible if we are electing intelligent people that are truly representing, not only their constituents, but their own personal beliefs?

Sometimes, the opposition candidate or position is the best one. Why is that so difficult to understand? At every level, the opposing parties spend more time blocking than they spend on progress.

You can't be a leader if you are busy watching for reactions and upcoming trends. A leader is the pointy end of the spear; a leader envisions and guides; a leader doesn't check the polls and party handlers prior to taking a position or making a statement.

Terry
Technically discussion of politics is violation of the terms of service. However, I'll tell you what...

I appreciate everyone remaining civil with one another, there's been no defamation of each others' character. I love you guys for being the grown-ups you are. We'll let this thread go as long as you guys keep up the civility and respect. If things get nasty I or Mark will lock up the thread.

Larry, I love you bro ... please avoid use of the F word. Lets keep the language suitable for a mixed audience, OK?

Lee Iacocca is one of my personal heroes, I love his book. Its not a new book by the way, it's been out for a while.

Mark M, I want double butter on my popcorn.

cowboy from hell
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if you sit back and dont vote you have no right to speak


Ron, I beleive in all that you've said except for the above snip.
If you pay taxes, you have the right to complain.
I beleive it is everyones duty to educate themselves about the candidates running for election and make an educated decision. If you don't ( and most don't), then please leave the voting to those that spend some time researching.
I've heard all too many people say they were voting for a party because their parents always did or because they liked the color of their campaign signs.
Lets face it, they go after the donkeys for the easy votes.

""If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere
by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take
action.""

People have to stop complaining and start doing in order to make the big changes that are necessary.

As far as that war? Support the troops and get them home. Let those animals kill each other, like they've been doing for thousands of years.

Will
I have no reason to have anger for any of my Pantera brothers. I feel it doesn't matter any longer who you vote for since the only canidates we will be allowed to vote for, by the powers that be, will both be evil. They may have completely opposite political phylosphy, but they will be be just as evil since they will be motivated by sin. Greed, avirice, lust. murder. It is all evil.
We are in the end times. Jesus will be back in less than five years now. The only thing that will matter then is our love for one another.
Peace out my brothers.
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3,915 in Iraq

475 in Afghanistan

Total = 4,390


Anyone notice that in the state of NY, Hillary's state, more than four times as many people are murdered EACH year? Where's the outcry? In California more than twice as many murdered, where's the outcry?
It seema our leaders are interested in solving the world's problems while we deteriorate at home. Can we not address OUR problems ?
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If Clinton had paid more attention to taking Bin Ladin who was offered to him , instead of getting his knob polished there would have been no 9-11. And we would not be in Iraq or Afghanistan

Sorry,but that is B***S***.Bin Ladin was a target during the Clinton adm.and maybe he should have been taken out.But now he is still free after 911 and I can't understand it.Bush is a coward to send our men and women to die so he and his buddies make millions on the profits of war.And that is what this war is all about.Bush has sold us out and if I could I would punch him out,the little faggot.
LEE IS THE MAN! Ron Paul is the only Republican that voted against the war. He has great ideas and is not the run of the mill party member. Seems today its just like where I work. The management wants something done. They only want yes men to do it. If someone has a question they are labeled a trouble maker. The YES men are the ones who get ahead.
John Edwards is also out of the loop. He wants to put major controls on large corperations. he also wants National Health Care, he also wants to enact tighter free trade polices just like Ron Paul.
Those are the two who I feel can make a great changes to this country.
I was at work one day and we were at break. CNN was on the TV and a story about President Bushs warrantless phone taps was being aired. I made a comment about how outrageous that was. One guy who is a diehard republican ( just a note I go with the canidate/party who has the best plan/idea for that situation) said what are "WE"supposed to do? "WE" have to do something to catch the bad guys. I told him all Bush had to do was go to his secret court and he would have his wiretaps, all nice and legal. Now this is where it gets good. This guy called me a terrorist. His reasoning was if "I" wasnt with "THEM", "I" was a terrorist?? This is the typical followers Lee is talking about. Total devotion to a cause. Anyways I did not like being labeled like that. I consider myself a Patriot. I helped build US Naval vessels for over 15 years. I helped get ships out of mothballs for the first Gulf War, which I supported. I have never supported this war we are in now. I DO thank the military people I see in uniform, and I apologize for what our President has put them into.
Like Lee said we need leaders!
I guess I will get off my soapbox now. FWIW I do appreiciate this thread. Thanks George. You are in that class of person. A Leader.
Jeff
Just click here and watch all six parts of this interview. What you will see is an intelligent, honest, reasonable and responsible American.

If Ron Paul was able to get to the White House the world would be a much better place. However, listening to him you will see he make too much sense to ever have a chance.

And it's not like America is short of heroes and geniuses - it's just losing the option to get them into powerful positions through sneaky voting laws and end runs on our freedoms. The founding fathers spent time on what they were doing. Amazing that we can't follow such simple guidelines.
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Originally posted by deeb:
Just click here and watch all six parts of this interview. What you will see is an intelligent, honest, reasonable and responsible American.

If Ron Paul was able to get to the White House the world would be a much better place. However, listening to him you will see he make too much sense to ever have a chance.

And it's not like America is short of heroes and geniuses - it's just losing the option to get them into powerful positions through sneaky voting laws and end runs on our freedoms. The founding fathers spent time on what they were doing. Amazing that we can't follow such simple guidelines.


If Ron Paul would even get too many delegates, special interest groups would put a hit on him.
Will,

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People have to stop complaining and start doing in order to make the big changes that are necessary.


" if you sit back and dont vote you have no right to speak"

Are we not saing the same thing in different words ???

Deeb ... we are on the same page. Thanks for the link.

One thing that comes to mind is the great presidents were are knocked out of office one way or another .. why because they were regular people.

Please dont associate Hilary with NY .. although I liked Bill ... IS NOT from NY ... they were from ARKANSAS ... as a New Yorker we ask where is THAT ???

But if you want to associate some one ...a regular guy a real hero in New York ... look up Rudy Guliani ... he did the most out of anyone in the USA during 9/11 and Rudy back when he was Mayor took on the Mafia in NY and won ... but as a regular guy like you and I he is running out of campain money.

Ron
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" if you sit back and dont vote you have no right to speak"

Are we not saing the same thing in different words ???


Ron,
yes, I agreed with everything you said except that people should not vote unless they have done some homework.

As far as Ron Paul goes, Damn! I started watching interviews with this guy and if he doesn't get elected in the US, can you send him to Canada?
Unfortunately, this poor guy will get "taken out" if he even gets close to election. Too bad.
Will
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