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NICE
Congrats! Very well done.
BRAVO Jim!
Wahoooo!
George
Wahoooo!
George
Looks GREAT Coz!
John
John
Thanks a BIG bunch Guys.
Also went to the Alum. flywheel. Not sure what to think about it yet. I kinda miss the grunt torq feeling I got with the steel flywheel. But figure I'll give it a while and see how I feel after driving it for awhile getting used to it....
Also went to the Alum. flywheel. Not sure what to think about it yet. I kinda miss the grunt torq feeling I got with the steel flywheel. But figure I'll give it a while and see how I feel after driving it for awhile getting used to it....
Coz
How the hell did you manage to polish the ZF so well in the back of the car!
Im just trying the same thing and it's not easy, how did you start, and what are you using to get it so good.
PS Looks hot!!!!
Dennis
How the hell did you manage to polish the ZF so well in the back of the car!
Im just trying the same thing and it's not easy, how did you start, and what are you using to get it so good.
PS Looks hot!!!!
Dennis
Dennis,
It was out of the car.
A lot of sanding with 600 and 1000 grit wet and dry. A lot of buffing with a cutting compound, then polishing with red and white compounds. 40+ hours of work to get it to this point. It will get better as time and polishing continues.
I rebuilt it. Replaced all of the synchro's, 1st & 2nd with undersize, 3 through 5th with normal size, now have .40+ clearance everywhere synchro wise, balanced somewhat and cut and polished the leading side of the gears and counter gears, the mating side of the ring gear and pinion, opened up the oiling ports in the the gears I could and so on.
It's perfect, shifts like butter. Never had a better gearbox than I do now. It wasn't brain surgery, just being carefull and paying attention to details.
Raced a rice burner tonight that is a friend of mine, he's putting out 350 HP at the flywheel in a Honda, ineteresting. I found the alum flywheel very responsive as to reving up very quickly. So fast in fact my tack jumps to keep up with the rpm's. Didn't lose much rpm from gear to gear. Shifted at 6500 and it dropped to 4000 and right back up to 6500. The raw torq may not be there, but it seems to have become much faster through the rpm's and getting to speed. The second race I let him get 50 yards in front of me traveling at 70 mph and then we began again. Within an 1/4 mile I caught him and went by him with a very steady and even pull. Amazing. I am liking what's going on with the set up.
It was out of the car.
A lot of sanding with 600 and 1000 grit wet and dry. A lot of buffing with a cutting compound, then polishing with red and white compounds. 40+ hours of work to get it to this point. It will get better as time and polishing continues.
I rebuilt it. Replaced all of the synchro's, 1st & 2nd with undersize, 3 through 5th with normal size, now have .40+ clearance everywhere synchro wise, balanced somewhat and cut and polished the leading side of the gears and counter gears, the mating side of the ring gear and pinion, opened up the oiling ports in the the gears I could and so on.
It's perfect, shifts like butter. Never had a better gearbox than I do now. It wasn't brain surgery, just being carefull and paying attention to details.
Raced a rice burner tonight that is a friend of mine, he's putting out 350 HP at the flywheel in a Honda, ineteresting. I found the alum flywheel very responsive as to reving up very quickly. So fast in fact my tack jumps to keep up with the rpm's. Didn't lose much rpm from gear to gear. Shifted at 6500 and it dropped to 4000 and right back up to 6500. The raw torq may not be there, but it seems to have become much faster through the rpm's and getting to speed. The second race I let him get 50 yards in front of me traveling at 70 mph and then we began again. Within an 1/4 mile I caught him and went by him with a very steady and even pull. Amazing. I am liking what's going on with the set up.
Coz
Thanks for the advice on polishing the ZF, I think I might give it a quick polish instead!
Only had the car for three weeks now, already planning major engine bay detail.
Going to enjoy car for our summer then going to do major engine bay restoration.
I'll polish the ZF when I get the engine out of the car!
Sounds like a big job but it's a labour of passion, and you can't put a price on that can you.
I'd love to see some photos of your car!
Dennis
Thanks for the advice on polishing the ZF, I think I might give it a quick polish instead!
Only had the car for three weeks now, already planning major engine bay detail.
Going to enjoy car for our summer then going to do major engine bay restoration.
I'll polish the ZF when I get the engine out of the car!
Sounds like a big job but it's a labour of passion, and you can't put a price on that can you.
I'd love to see some photos of your car!
Dennis
I bet now you are glad you didn't give up eh Coz. I am really happy it turned out so well. You da man!!
I am really happy it turned out so well. You da man!!
Yup, I take back everything I ever said about the ZF. This is the first time I've had one that actually works the way it should...
I also have Dennis Quella to thank for his endless advice & calls back and forth to check on progress, and a brother Bill Boudreau who was my teacher and mentor through the process.
Learned a lot....
I also have Dennis Quella to thank for his endless advice & calls back and forth to check on progress, and a brother Bill Boudreau who was my teacher and mentor through the process.
Learned a lot....
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
I bet now you are glad you didn't give up eh Coz.
Dennis, send me an e-mail and I'll send you a few off the board.
cozland@cox.net
I'd love to see some photos of your car!
Dennis[/QUOTE]
cozland@cox.net
I'd love to see some photos of your car!
Dennis
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Coz,
Your engine and trans look great!!! I did want to ask you a question about the trans. / shifter. The splined end off the u-joint that goes into the shifter box at the trans, how did you adjust that? Is there a spec.? I had Lloyd do my trans. and I had removed that piece when I gave it to him. When I got it back and installed the shift lever the trans. didn't want to shift. I had to turn it a couple splines and then try it, turn a couple more and try it. I finally got the car to shift, but I don't think it's right. What do you think?
Your engine and trans look great!!! I did want to ask you a question about the trans. / shifter. The splined end off the u-joint that goes into the shifter box at the trans, how did you adjust that? Is there a spec.? I had Lloyd do my trans. and I had removed that piece when I gave it to him. When I got it back and installed the shift lever the trans. didn't want to shift. I had to turn it a couple splines and then try it, turn a couple more and try it. I finally got the car to shift, but I don't think it's right. What do you think?
Are you talking about the linkage that runs from the shifter box, through the trunion bearing throught the firewall, through the tunnel to the shifter lever ?
If so, the is no real adjustment specs to speak of. The way I set mine up was up is by hooking everything up without tightening everything yet. Also loosen the turn buckle on the linkage and the trunion bearing. Have someone hold the shifter lever centered in the gate and tighten down the turn buckle on the linkage. This sets your left to right center position. Then tap the shifter linkage buckle forward or back until it also sits center in the shifter gate. This sets your forward & back center position. Then tighten down the buckle. Shift it a few times and see where the turion bearing wants to sit. Tighten it up making sure you clear your fender well and the bell housing when shifting to all gears. There's not a lot of clearance so check it after tighten it down. You may have to adjust the trunion bearing up or down a little.
Some very small final adjustments may have to be made with the splined buckle forward or back depending on how your engaging gears.
Hope this helps.
If so, the is no real adjustment specs to speak of. The way I set mine up was up is by hooking everything up without tightening everything yet. Also loosen the turn buckle on the linkage and the trunion bearing. Have someone hold the shifter lever centered in the gate and tighten down the turn buckle on the linkage. This sets your left to right center position. Then tap the shifter linkage buckle forward or back until it also sits center in the shifter gate. This sets your forward & back center position. Then tighten down the buckle. Shift it a few times and see where the turion bearing wants to sit. Tighten it up making sure you clear your fender well and the bell housing when shifting to all gears. There's not a lot of clearance so check it after tighten it down. You may have to adjust the trunion bearing up or down a little.
Some very small final adjustments may have to be made with the splined buckle forward or back depending on how your engaging gears.
Hope this helps.
quote:Originally posted by Dougo:
Coz,
Your engine and trans look great!!! I did want to ask you a question about the trans. / shifter. The splined end off the u-joint that goes into the shifter box at the trans, how did you adjust that? Is there a spec.? I had Lloyd do my trans. and I had removed that piece when I gave it to him. When I got it back and installed the shift lever the trans. didn't want to shift. I had to turn it a couple splines and then try it, turn a couple more and try it. I finally got the car to shift, but I don't think it's right. What do you think?
Yes that's what I'm talking about. However, at the trans end it's a splined u-joint the goes onto the shaft coming out of the trans shifter box. My shifting on the car is positive yet tight. I wonder now, since you mention it, maybe my trunion bearing is to high or too low....I'll try your adjustment procedure and see what happens. Thanks very much Coz!!
Doug,
Sounds like it might just need the trunion bearing adjusted.
Sounds like it might just need the trunion bearing adjusted.
quote:Originally posted by Dougo:
Yes that's what I'm talking about. However, at the trans end it's a splined u-joint the goes onto the shaft coming out of the trans shifter box. My shifting on the car is positive yet tight. I wonder now, since you mention it, maybe my trunion bearing is to high or too low....I'll try your adjustment procedure and see what happens. Thanks very much Coz!!
LOL....just think what it'll look like when it's all done and you've worn down 4 or 5 fingers to the bone.....My fingers are still healing from all the sanding.
Now I have to do my valve covers...
Thanks Mark.
Now I have to do my valve covers...
Thanks Mark.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Mensen:
Coz looks great! How much to finish mine? I have the hard part done.
Hey Buddy!
Good to hear that you're back on the road again!
See, I told you that it would be worth it in the long run to stick with it! What weight fly wheel did you use?
Good to hear that you're back on the road again!
See, I told you that it would be worth it in the long run to stick with it! What weight fly wheel did you use?
Aloha D.....
Didn't weigh it and never thought to ask. I would guess it to be around 18 lbs...
Mahalo brother.
How's yours running ?
Didn't weigh it and never thought to ask. I would guess it to be around 18 lbs...
Mahalo brother.
How's yours running ?
quote:Originally posted by 4NFORD:
Hey Buddy!
Good to hear that you're back on the road again!
See, I told you that it would be worth it in the long run to stick with it! What weight fly wheel did you use?
Gee Coz, valve covers too? Now I'm really worried about you.
For a guy that loves to drive 'em every day, rain or shine, I'm curious how you'll feel when a) you have to keep all that polish clean; or b) when the addiction continues and you start polishing and chroming anything you see; or c) when you're finally sick of keeping up and decide to keep the engione bay closed or buy a daily driver and leave the cat at home on those rainy days.
Oh yeah, I forgot it doesn't rain in Phoenix. But wait 'till after a fast ride all the dust and sand settles on a nicely painted engine bay with all that polish. It can scratch so easily.
So, now just like the rest of us "shiny nuts" you will be reaching for your compressed air to blow the junk out your engine bay and gently dust and clean everthing every time you come home.
So now, not only will you have sore fingers from polishing, you'll have burned fingers from not waiting for it to cool off before cleaning.
Looks awesome, though. Couldn't have it any other way.
For a guy that loves to drive 'em every day, rain or shine, I'm curious how you'll feel when a) you have to keep all that polish clean; or b) when the addiction continues and you start polishing and chroming anything you see; or c) when you're finally sick of keeping up and decide to keep the engione bay closed or buy a daily driver and leave the cat at home on those rainy days.
Oh yeah, I forgot it doesn't rain in Phoenix. But wait 'till after a fast ride all the dust and sand settles on a nicely painted engine bay with all that polish. It can scratch so easily.
So, now just like the rest of us "shiny nuts" you will be reaching for your compressed air to blow the junk out your engine bay and gently dust and clean everthing every time you come home.
So now, not only will you have sore fingers from polishing, you'll have burned fingers from not waiting for it to cool off before cleaning.
Looks awesome, though. Couldn't have it any other way.
Thanks Deeb.....
Yea, it's addicting alright. I figure the valve covers are the last of it. Need to do them now to look right now that the ZF is done to balance everything out.
You're right, thank god for air compressors :-) Actually, it's holding up really well so far.
I have a Mercedes 400E now as second car which I am driving in the rain....but for the last 5 days, the Pantera has been on the road and the Benz is just gathering dust
Yea, it's addicting alright. I figure the valve covers are the last of it. Need to do them now to look right now that the ZF is done to balance everything out.
You're right, thank god for air compressors :-) Actually, it's holding up really well so far.
I have a Mercedes 400E now as second car which I am driving in the rain....but for the last 5 days, the Pantera has been on the road and the Benz is just gathering dust
Coz,
Did you install a new clutch?
What brand did you use if you did?
I'm preparing to buy one for my project.
Did you install a new clutch?
What brand did you use if you did?
I'm preparing to buy one for my project.
Yes, used a McLeod and installed an Aluminum Flywheel.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Mensen:
Coz,
Did you install a new clutch?
What brand did you use if you did?
I'm preparing to buy one for my project.