Rumor has it another Pantera owner bought an NSX.....Is this true Glenn ?
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See what you have started Coz..... 
LOL....yea, but I told him to keep is Pantera as well, which he's going to do.
quote:Originally posted by ShotgunGrooms:
See what you have started Coz.....
I can appreciate the wonderful engineering of the NSX. If you want a car that is virtually turn the key and everything works every time the NSX is a true Honda product. If you are looking for an exciting daily driver this a great choice.
But for me the NSX is too refined. The styling while a personal matter is to me also a yawn. The car just lacks soul.
My Pantera is not my daily driver. My new Acura TSX is the practical choice for Atlanta's daily grid lock. But the Pantera is my passion. There is always that wonderful smell of the fine Italian pleather interior. The great noise from the Cleveland Orchestra is the only music I need.
This Italian mistress often teases and puts me in place with various needs for repairs.
But for me the car exudes soul and never fails to put an ear to ear grin on my face on each and every drive.
But for me the NSX is too refined. The styling while a personal matter is to me also a yawn. The car just lacks soul.
My Pantera is not my daily driver. My new Acura TSX is the practical choice for Atlanta's daily grid lock. But the Pantera is my passion. There is always that wonderful smell of the fine Italian pleather interior. The great noise from the Cleveland Orchestra is the only music I need.
This Italian mistress often teases and puts me in place with various needs for repairs.
But for me the car exudes soul and never fails to put an ear to ear grin on my face on each and every drive.
Coz,
You know I did. For me the NSX presents an easier drive for an old guy with limited use of my extremities. I will keep the Pantera for my more adventurous thrills. The cars are different. The Pantera is my brutal power, scare hell out of the young NASCAR types around here ride. I will still drive and show it.
The NSX is an automatic which suits me for an easier drive. I will say that even with the automatic and basically stock engine, the NSX is surprisingly quick. It doesn't hurt to see 26 mpg for the NSX.
Like Coz, I'll be here for a long time, I can't imagine leaving such a great group of friends.
Glenn (aka EDMGURU)
You know I did. For me the NSX presents an easier drive for an old guy with limited use of my extremities. I will keep the Pantera for my more adventurous thrills. The cars are different. The Pantera is my brutal power, scare hell out of the young NASCAR types around here ride. I will still drive and show it.
The NSX is an automatic which suits me for an easier drive. I will say that even with the automatic and basically stock engine, the NSX is surprisingly quick. It doesn't hurt to see 26 mpg for the NSX.
Like Coz, I'll be here for a long time, I can't imagine leaving such a great group of friends.
Glenn (aka EDMGURU)
I see several around here in the rain, and other bad weather. They look good. I couldn't imagine driving any other exotic in such weather without problems, like leaks, fogging windows etc.
I couldn't agree more with you. That's why another Pantera is not to far off for me in addition to my NSX. The Pantera just won't be my daily driver anymore. Specially at $3.25 a gallon and rising for gas.
But how I do miss the beautiful sounds of the Cleveland Orchestra as you put it. It sturs the soul for sure....
Having owned both, I couldn't think of a better combination of cars to own. I think it's the best of both worlds, old vs. new, muscle vs. refinement.
But how I do miss the beautiful sounds of the Cleveland Orchestra as you put it. It sturs the soul for sure....
Having owned both, I couldn't think of a better combination of cars to own. I think it's the best of both worlds, old vs. new, muscle vs. refinement.
quote:Originally posted by Pantera#4134:
I can appreciate the wonderful engineering of the NSX. If you want a car that is virtually turn the key and everything works every time the NSX is a true Honda product. If you are looking for an exciting daily driver this a great choice.
But for me the NSX is too refined. The styling while a personal matter is to me also a yawn. The car just lacks soul.
My Pantera is not my daily driver. My new Acura TSX is the practical choice for Atlanta's daily grid lock. But the Pantera is my passion. There is always that wonderful smell of the fine Italian pleather interior. The great noise from the Cleveland Orchestra is the only music I need.
This Italian mistress often teases and puts me in place with various needs for repairs.
But for me the car exudes soul and never fails to put an ear to ear grin on my face on each and every drive.
LOL, George. If I had that much VTEC I might be able to dream about such babes. But alas, a hot night for me is going out in the Pantera just to make the young studs jealous.
I would rather have a Vette instead of an NSX. Why? First of all, it is American and not Japanese. It is fast, wont rust, reasonably priced and gets 29mpg. I would put snow tires on one and drive in the snow. Really, a Vette would make a good daily driver.
I considered an NSX before buying my Pantera. I could see it would have required lowered floor pans for me to fit and I just didn't want to be the first to do it. That was ten years ago and I would imagine someone has done it by now if it hadn't already been done. I couldn't be happier that I bought the Pantera. I like being able to make whatever modifications I want without fear of devaluing my investment.
Art
Art
Glenn,
I don't remember them coming with my NSX. Will have to check the trunk again, maybe their in there....LOL....too funny.
I don't remember them coming with my NSX. Will have to check the trunk again, maybe their in there....LOL....too funny.
Great, then you should buy a Vette and join the other million people driving Vettes. Not for me, Vettes are a dime a dozen. And if any Vette is getting 29 mph, it isn't that fast. I believe your mistaken, the NSX is all Aluminum and will never rust, I've seen plenty of Vettes with rust.
I'm sure the many Vettes, being American and all, that I've run up against so far are wondering why they couldn't keep up with a Japanese car....being Japanese and all. But then again, I'm pushing almost 400 RWHP with a V6, 8000 redline and getting 22 mph when I keep my foot out of it.
Yea, my NSX is a real dog alright..
Post your dyno sheet, your ET slip, let's see this 800 HP and 11.80.
The guys I run with that are running 800 HP are running in the 9's and 10's. Maybe you should try taking your foot off the brake or make sure your parking brake isn't on....I am curious how your putting 800 HP through ZF ? Please enlighten me on this.....I'm sure many of us would like to know your secret....
Bring it to Vegas, put it on the track and let's see what 800 HP can do.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CrazyDave:
I would rather have a Vette instead of an NSX. Why? First of all, it is American and not Japanese. It is fast, wont rust, reasonably priced and gets 29mpg.
I'm sure the many Vettes, being American and all, that I've run up against so far are wondering why they couldn't keep up with a Japanese car....being Japanese and all. But then again, I'm pushing almost 400 RWHP with a V6, 8000 redline and getting 22 mph when I keep my foot out of it.
Yea, my NSX is a real dog alright..
Post your dyno sheet, your ET slip, let's see this 800 HP and 11.80.
The guys I run with that are running 800 HP are running in the 9's and 10's. Maybe you should try taking your foot off the brake or make sure your parking brake isn't on....I am curious how your putting 800 HP through ZF ? Please enlighten me on this.....I'm sure many of us would like to know your secret....
Bring it to Vegas, put it on the track and let's see what 800 HP can do.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CrazyDave:
I would rather have a Vette instead of an NSX. Why? First of all, it is American and not Japanese. It is fast, wont rust, reasonably priced and gets 29mpg.
Well on second thought, I don't think I'll check the trunk. Its probably best I keep it locked.
quote:Originally posted by george pence:quote:Originally posted by Coz:
...I don't remember them coming with my NSX...
quote:Originally posted by Art Stephens:
...I considered an NSX before buying my Pantera...
Me too. They are a great sports car. My decision between the NSX and Pantera was purely emotional, I came to the realization that I'm in love with an Italian mistress.
Like Glen, I have considered making an NSX my daily driver, but for now I have need for something with passenger & luggage capacity, and I don't want a fleet of cars parked in the driveway.
cowboy from hell
George,
the Pantera and NSX live in the garage. My 'cripple people' van is reduced to living outside for now. Ah, the woes of loving cars!
the Pantera and NSX live in the garage. My 'cripple people' van is reduced to living outside for now. Ah, the woes of loving cars!
My everyday driver is a 2002 Focus. It is easy to get in and out of, comfortable enough, and gets real world gas milage in the mid twenties around town and low thirties on the highway. For everyday going to work, I don't want a car I have to worry about sitting in the parking lot. I don't want to grunt and groan getting in and out of the car. I just want to get to work and back without worry. With traffic the way it is I get home just as fast in the Focus as I do in the Pantera anyway. Maybe faster cause people are always slowing down to gawk at the Pantera while my focus doesn't even register. It is stealthy and invisible to cops. A couple of times I have gone right through radar traps without even slowing down and they don't stop me. They know it wouldn't be any fun to chase a focus. So they just let me speed to my hearts content.
You make a great point Mark....:-)
quote:. As for a daily driver I have a stock 02 Ford Lightning that can do something that both the corvette and NSX can’t do….
Mark,
Motor wise, my NSX is far from stock. The body is still stock at this point. I'm hoping to do the Sorcery wide body kit over the summer.
While I like the styling of the NSX the way it is, I too feel it could be more aggressive looking.
Motor wise, my NSX is far from stock. The body is still stock at this point. I'm hoping to do the Sorcery wide body kit over the summer.
While I like the styling of the NSX the way it is, I too feel it could be more aggressive looking.
quote:Originally posted by Mark:
You know what I forgot...
Coz did post a pick of an NSX I like but it did not have a stock looking body. Now that was a sharp looking car.
When I get another Pantera, it will be another GT5 as well. It's one of the most beautiful looks on a car I've even seen...I never grow tired of looking at the GT5, it's timeless.
quote:Yes thats why my Pantera has the GT5 look
I gotta get a truck!!! Then I need to find out where you get that 'cargo'.
Here's what 400 rwhp does in an NSX down the 1/4 mile....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p641btQuFbA
This one's at 500 rwhp
Even with a piss poor 60 foot time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFXqF83zTc
Neither of which need 800 HP to run 11 second 1/4 miles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p641btQuFbA
This one's at 500 rwhp
Even with a piss poor 60 foot time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFXqF83zTc
Neither of which need 800 HP to run 11 second 1/4 miles.
The first car had slicks, the second car was on a down hill track. If you notice I have run over 130 in the quarter on street rubber. 3 full seconds of burnout when I launch. You will note, that the 11.8 was with the boost dropped down to a 450 level. Only 6 psi. At a full 14 psi, the car has no traction with normal tires in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear. I can do burnouts in 3 gears. As soon as I can get someone to record it, I can show you.
And if you say the V8 aint fair, I will race that NSX with a Buick V6 any day!!! Can that NSX turn 8s with a 100 foot wheel stand?
I will still take the Vette over an NSX. Even if they are common. And I have had a neighbor that documented 29mpg in a 400 HP vette, and even on GMs commercial they indicated such. Remember the GM commercial talking about how many cars they get over 30 mpg and at the end they had a vette slide in and say that it only gets just under 30.
I wont sell my Pantera, I will keep it for ever and be fathfull to it. I have now owned it for 20 years. Can you say that? Not many people can.
And if you doubt my car is fast, go to Vegas. You will be there right? Go to the track event. Talk to Scott, the instructor there. Ask him about Dave Doddek's Turbocharged Pantera and how fast it is. He rode in it 7 years ago and he STILL talks about how fast it was. At that time I was only running 3 PSI boost since it was a new engine AND I had to yet drive in silver state AND drive 2000 miles home.
And if you say the V8 aint fair, I will race that NSX with a Buick V6 any day!!! Can that NSX turn 8s with a 100 foot wheel stand?
I will still take the Vette over an NSX. Even if they are common. And I have had a neighbor that documented 29mpg in a 400 HP vette, and even on GMs commercial they indicated such. Remember the GM commercial talking about how many cars they get over 30 mpg and at the end they had a vette slide in and say that it only gets just under 30.
I wont sell my Pantera, I will keep it for ever and be fathfull to it. I have now owned it for 20 years. Can you say that? Not many people can.
And if you doubt my car is fast, go to Vegas. You will be there right? Go to the track event. Talk to Scott, the instructor there. Ask him about Dave Doddek's Turbocharged Pantera and how fast it is. He rode in it 7 years ago and he STILL talks about how fast it was. At that time I was only running 3 PSI boost since it was a new engine AND I had to yet drive in silver state AND drive 2000 miles home.
LOL....yup, your a real legend. When I grow up, I want to be just like you.
Now, now boys, lets play nice! Opinions are just that, don't start taking things personal and create a pissing match.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CrazyDave:
>>The first car had slicks<<
Yea, so what, it's a 400 HP car. Still ran what you run.
>>the second car was on a down hill track<<
BS....get over it, that car will out run you any day of the week and it was using street tires. Downhill my ass. The fact is, if you really do have 800 HP, you will never be able to apply it, the ZF will not handle it. You apply that kind of power through the ZF, you'll run a 20 minute time because that's how long it will take you to push it a 1/4 mile through the trap. Friends of mine like Dennis Quella & Greg Esakof run all the power through a Pantera that is can handle and will run circles around your 800 HP.
Get a clue dude.
>>If you notice I have run over 130 in the quarter on street rubber. 3 full seconds of burnout when I launch. You will note, that the 11.8 was with the boost dropped down to a 450 level. Only 6 psi. At a full 14 psi, the car has no traction with normal tires in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear. I can do burnouts in 3 gears. As soon as I can get someone to record it, I can show you<<
Notice what ? All I hear is talk, show me something that backs up what your telling me.
>>And if you say the V8 aint fair, I will race that NSX with a Buick V6 any day!!! Can that NSX turn 8s with a 100 foot wheel stand?<<
Nope, that's because my NSX isn't a drag car.
Is this another fantasy ? How about we track the cars and see what your 100 foot wheel stand means on a road course. Bring it on. In fact bring on your 800 HP BS and lets see what it can do on a road course, that's if you can even keep it on the road course long enough to actually make it around the track.
>>I will still take the Vette over an NSX. Even if they are common. And I have had a neighbor that documented 29mpg in a 400 HP vette, and even on GMs commercial they indicated such. Remember the GM commercial talking about how many cars they get over 30 mpg and at the end they had a vette slide in and say that it only gets just under 30.<<
LOL...by all means do so.
>>I wont sell my Pantera, I will keep it for ever and be fathfull to it. I have now owned it for 20 years. Can you say that? Not many people can<<
Nope, who cares.
>>And if you doubt my car is fast, go to Vegas. You will be there right? Go to the track event. Talk to Scott, the instructor there. Ask him about Dave Doddek's Turbocharged Pantera and how fast it is<<
Yea, I'm going to be in Vegas and tracking my car. Are you ? Don't need to ask anyone, show up and let's see. Talk over the internet is cheap.
Still waiting to see this 800 RWHP dyno sheet and your 1/4 mile slip. You do have them, right ?
>>Twin Turbo 800HP, 11.80@132 so far<<
Better keep working on it.....
Come to think of it, let's see some pictures of this 800 HP car....
>>The first car had slicks<<
Yea, so what, it's a 400 HP car. Still ran what you run.
>>the second car was on a down hill track<<
BS....get over it, that car will out run you any day of the week and it was using street tires. Downhill my ass. The fact is, if you really do have 800 HP, you will never be able to apply it, the ZF will not handle it. You apply that kind of power through the ZF, you'll run a 20 minute time because that's how long it will take you to push it a 1/4 mile through the trap. Friends of mine like Dennis Quella & Greg Esakof run all the power through a Pantera that is can handle and will run circles around your 800 HP.
Get a clue dude.
>>If you notice I have run over 130 in the quarter on street rubber. 3 full seconds of burnout when I launch. You will note, that the 11.8 was with the boost dropped down to a 450 level. Only 6 psi. At a full 14 psi, the car has no traction with normal tires in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear. I can do burnouts in 3 gears. As soon as I can get someone to record it, I can show you<<
Notice what ? All I hear is talk, show me something that backs up what your telling me.
>>And if you say the V8 aint fair, I will race that NSX with a Buick V6 any day!!! Can that NSX turn 8s with a 100 foot wheel stand?<<
Nope, that's because my NSX isn't a drag car.
Is this another fantasy ? How about we track the cars and see what your 100 foot wheel stand means on a road course. Bring it on. In fact bring on your 800 HP BS and lets see what it can do on a road course, that's if you can even keep it on the road course long enough to actually make it around the track.
>>I will still take the Vette over an NSX. Even if they are common. And I have had a neighbor that documented 29mpg in a 400 HP vette, and even on GMs commercial they indicated such. Remember the GM commercial talking about how many cars they get over 30 mpg and at the end they had a vette slide in and say that it only gets just under 30.<<
LOL...by all means do so.
>>I wont sell my Pantera, I will keep it for ever and be fathfull to it. I have now owned it for 20 years. Can you say that? Not many people can<<
Nope, who cares.
>>And if you doubt my car is fast, go to Vegas. You will be there right? Go to the track event. Talk to Scott, the instructor there. Ask him about Dave Doddek's Turbocharged Pantera and how fast it is<<
Yea, I'm going to be in Vegas and tracking my car. Are you ? Don't need to ask anyone, show up and let's see. Talk over the internet is cheap.
Still waiting to see this 800 RWHP dyno sheet and your 1/4 mile slip. You do have them, right ?
>>Twin Turbo 800HP, 11.80@132 so far<<
Better keep working on it.....
Come to think of it, let's see some pictures of this 800 HP car....
quote:Originally posted by CrazyDave:
I would rather have a Vette instead of an NSX.
Excuse me CrazyDave.
edmguru and Coz were enjoying sharing about their new NSXs. Why couldn't you just congratulate them, instead of raining on their parade? What's wrong with a Japanese car? Is it any more foreign than an Italian car? Did you forget you own an Italian car?
quote:Originally posted by CrazyDave:
I wont sell my Pantera, I will keep it for ever and be fathfull to it. I have now owned it for 20 years. Can you say that?
Everyone who reads this forum knows Coz sold his Pantera to fulfill family obligations. That is a very mature thing to do. It indicates Coz loves his family. The pictures he posted of Joules5 driving his white Pantera away were very touching, it was obviously a sad moment. Your comment about keeping your Pantera is very cruel.
Deb
quote:Originally posted by edmguru:
I gotta get a truck!!! Then I need to find out where you get that 'cargo'.
Come on up to Madison in either car!
CrazyDave know your car! That dude don't have a clue!! From Pekin Il.
The guy I bought my Pantera from has a widebody, 550hp NSX. Beautiful car. I've noticed that many Pantera owners have other performance cars...the three I have met in Vegas own a Viper, NSX and Lambo Diablo.
Robert
Robert
quote:Originally posted by RobertVegas:
The guy I bought my Pantera from has a widebody, 550hp NSX.
Robert
Tell him to get on NSXprime.com
I believe these cars are complementary