His original concept drawing suggested he was going to rework the lines/bodywork, particularly the front clip, which was probably a bit overdone IMO. It was a similar rendering to the Europa he did which was pretty nice I thought. However, the finished product doesn’t look like he altered anything to me except PB doors and side markers. –Pretty much classic Pantera with a nice stance. The wheels are a unique and personalized touch but given that’s about it as far as Foose styling cues, it’s kind of interesting it gets his name on the side though. I was thinking maybe Tjaarda belonged there rather than Foose.
…and upon edit I’d add that given Foose has the imagination, talent, and means to radically alter and create cars to suit his mind’s eye, he must have decided it was hard to improve on Tjaarda’s original design….quite the compliment really.
Best,
K
Heading to SEMA Show tomorrow...I will try to get some pictures and post them here when I can.
What a stunning car. The wheels are an interesting take on the original campy's and the more modern styles and I love its stance. Something I'd like to achieve on mine.
Though something was a little odd looking and realized there are no door mirrors.
quote:
The story at the link says it has a rebuilt 351 Windsor "...and it has a 351 Windsor engine. He wanted to maintain the integrity of the car, Jacobs added" but shows a 351c installed.
Best,
K
quote:Originally posted by Panterror:quote:
The story at the link says it has a rebuilt 351 Windsor "...and it has a 351 Windsor engine. He wanted to maintain the integrity of the car, Jacobs added" but shows a 351c installed.
Best,
K
Someone must have been listening; it was just corrected online in the article.
quote:Originally posted by 1973 Pantera: Someone must have been listening; it was just corrected online in the article.
They certainly did. I think there may have been one other reference to a 351W before the late model 302 comment that was also deleted. Hopefully it now not only reads correctly but as intended.
Now he just needs to become not so true to the original exhaust manifolds and get some proper GTS Pantera headers on there.
Just the same, nice to know Foose prefers the Pantera pretty much as designed for his own car. A nice member to have in the club.
Best,
K
Odd they left, what I assume to be, AC Condenser brackets in place.
I would have thought that he would have redone the interior from stock? I did.
I like the color used in the engine compartment. Tasty and subtle.
I kind of expected something with the engine too? Maybe the Chevy Hilborn type fuel injection stacks sideways and different lengths?
I like the color used in the engine compartment. Tasty and subtle.
I kind of expected something with the engine too? Maybe the Chevy Hilborn type fuel injection stacks sideways and different lengths?
I wonder if there was just a little bit of "In your face Ring Brothers, this is how a Pantera is done". 
Earlier in this thread (page 7) was a posting of Chip Foose's Instagram post regarding the arrival of his new P7 tires.
You can see 305/35-VR15 on one tire. This is a 12 inch wide tire by my calculations which I would guess is a rear wheel on a narrow body Pantera.
However, to me the rear wheels of Foose's car at SEMA appear bigger than a 15" diameter. What does everyone else think? Anyone been at SEMA that could verify? I guess I could be all washed up.
Devin
P.S. I really like the way his car turned out - very classy. I especially like those wheels.
You can see 305/35-VR15 on one tire. This is a 12 inch wide tire by my calculations which I would guess is a rear wheel on a narrow body Pantera.
However, to me the rear wheels of Foose's car at SEMA appear bigger than a 15" diameter. What does everyone else think? Anyone been at SEMA that could verify? I guess I could be all washed up.
Devin
P.S. I really like the way his car turned out - very classy. I especially like those wheels.
Devin
I'm looking at the rear tires. The tire OD looks no more than 26" diameter because it is less than the wheel arch radius. The choices in modern tires with less than 26" OD is very limited. The tire's side wall looks no more than 3.5" tall. A 26" diameter tire with 3.5" sidewalls would be mounted on a 19" diameter wheel. On the other hand, that may be a 335/30R18 tire (25.9" diameter, 3.95" sidewalls).
By the way, the front wheel is smaller in diameter than the rear wheel. Doesn't it look bitchen? Also notice how the front wheel arch overhangs the top of the front tire.
Why can't the Pantera vendors offer wheels like that? Hopefully it won't be too long before someone does.
Chip has done a wonderful job! Very tasteful. Bravo to Mr. Foose.
By the way, I visited the various links posted here, and I used a search engine to look for more info regarding Mr. Foose's Pantera. As I did I couldn't help but be annoyed by the way other websites inundated me with ads, pop-ups, etc. I have to take a moment to plug our forums. We eschew all that crap, to give you an experience free of all that commercialism. Here each of you are considered family, its just me and Debbie hoping to break even.
I'm looking at the rear tires. The tire OD looks no more than 26" diameter because it is less than the wheel arch radius. The choices in modern tires with less than 26" OD is very limited. The tire's side wall looks no more than 3.5" tall. A 26" diameter tire with 3.5" sidewalls would be mounted on a 19" diameter wheel. On the other hand, that may be a 335/30R18 tire (25.9" diameter, 3.95" sidewalls).
By the way, the front wheel is smaller in diameter than the rear wheel. Doesn't it look bitchen? Also notice how the front wheel arch overhangs the top of the front tire.
Why can't the Pantera vendors offer wheels like that? Hopefully it won't be too long before someone does.
Chip has done a wonderful job! Very tasteful. Bravo to Mr. Foose.
By the way, I visited the various links posted here, and I used a search engine to look for more info regarding Mr. Foose's Pantera. As I did I couldn't help but be annoyed by the way other websites inundated me with ads, pop-ups, etc. I have to take a moment to plug our forums. We eschew all that crap, to give you an experience free of all that commercialism. Here each of you are considered family, its just me and Debbie hoping to break even.
George,
Thanks for all the wisdom again. I also agree that the front wheel looks like a smaller diameter than the rear wheel. And yes it does look awesome. I would definitely like to own a set of those wheels.
Hopefully, someone that attends SEMA can get the size of the front and rear tires. I was also guessing 19's in the rear after all the wheel and tire combos I have looked at recently.
Devin
P.S. George & Debbie - thanks for all you do on the forum. I truly appreciate all your efforts.
Thanks for all the wisdom again. I also agree that the front wheel looks like a smaller diameter than the rear wheel. And yes it does look awesome. I would definitely like to own a set of those wheels.
Hopefully, someone that attends SEMA can get the size of the front and rear tires. I was also guessing 19's in the rear after all the wheel and tire combos I have looked at recently.
Devin
P.S. George & Debbie - thanks for all you do on the forum. I truly appreciate all your efforts.
Kelly, when I read the article. It said Cleveland...they must have heard you......
“This is typical Foose work,” Jacobs said in his upbeat voice, “the wheels are larger, but they are his version of a Pantera wheel. It has subtle touches like the marker lights and the push-button door handles—and it has a 351 Cleveland engine. He wanted to maintain the integrity of the car,” Jacobs added
I love it. The bell housing painted to match the engine is a nice subtle touch. I wonder if he is running a front mounted condenser.
Jeff
“This is typical Foose work,” Jacobs said in his upbeat voice, “the wheels are larger, but they are his version of a Pantera wheel. It has subtle touches like the marker lights and the push-button door handles—and it has a 351 Cleveland engine. He wanted to maintain the integrity of the car,” Jacobs added
I love it. The bell housing painted to match the engine is a nice subtle touch. I wonder if he is running a front mounted condenser.
Jeff
I like it. But I was right about the exhaust. Doesn't look right. Needs longer tips!!
Stance is perfect
Stance is perfect
Gorgeous! So glad he didn't "re-interpret" the Pantera, or shave the door handles like he usually does. Although it does need a set of side view mirrors (he usually deletes these on all the cars he does) but he'll realize they're necessary as soon as he takes it out for a drive and tries to make a lane change. And I love his re-interpretation of the Campy wheel - fresh, but hints at it's roots!
I never cease to be amazed at the crowd the Pantera draws anywhere it goes, be it SEMA, Concorso, a local car show, or the gas station. People LOVE the Pantera!
I never cease to be amazed at the crowd the Pantera draws anywhere it goes, be it SEMA, Concorso, a local car show, or the gas station. People LOVE the Pantera!
Chip did a superb job on keeping the original flavor and adding his own tweaks! Those wheels and the stance make the car IMO. The other mods are not far off of what others have done to their cars.
Hopefully he likes how it came out, and keeps it as his own! Anyone heard an interview or him speaking about it at SEMA? Should show up somewhere.
Beautiful Car!
Hopefully he likes how it came out, and keeps it as his own! Anyone heard an interview or him speaking about it at SEMA? Should show up somewhere.
Beautiful Car!
I believe it's safe to say the car drew a little bit of attention......
Cool picture. I take it this was at the "unveiling"?
quote:Originally posted by Husker:
Cool picture. I take it this was at the "unveiling"?
Yes.
So glad to see the interest in the " Pro-builders " ranks, but I have seen much better builds from other owners, the Pantera is the most under appreciated mid engine Italian sports car ever panned by the media. It has been a long and winding 44 years for it's resurrection. The vindication of one of the most beautiful sports car ever created is evidenced by the reaction at ANY car show you might have ever participated in, and if we don't win first place at any show, we always win the trampled grass award.
I think the Pantera's are into the same category as the Porsche 911 , from the first to the last build you see the original design.
Simon
Simon
quote:we always win the trampled grass award.
Indeed.
After the Historics a few years ago, a fellow PCNC member said he had returned to our corral parking area mid-day and as he approached he noticed a group standing by a car in our corral. As he got closer, he noticed an F-40 had parked right next to my Pantera.
Guess what the group was looking at?
Larry
As a mater of fact, the Pantera with a production run of 25 years terminating in 1996, was only surpassed by the 911 for longevity of the original design. A vindication of the timeless design.
quote:Originally posted by Simon:
I think the Pantera's are into the same category as the Porsche 911 , from the first to the last build you see the original design.
Simon
More SEMA pics.
John
John
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Air cleaner snorkel was removed. Original slave cylinder red plastic tubing was retained.
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Right front with Euro type side marker (front only). Rears were removed completely.
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Note rounded lower edge of deck lid, similar to the stock front deck lid.
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The mufflers (sorry, I don't have a pic) were custom made by MagnaFlow, and tips don't extend as far aft as stock (might be a problem if the car is driven much)
Other noted items are the scripts on the rear of the car are chromed.
The license plate light assembly is chromed.
The deck lid opening is trimmed in metal (like the early 71's) and is chromed.
No exterior mirrors.
Door window frame is one piece (like the PB and a few early rectangular door handle cars).
Two spoke steering wheel.
John
Other noted items are the scripts on the rear of the car are chromed.
The license plate light assembly is chromed.
The deck lid opening is trimmed in metal (like the early 71's) and is chromed.
No exterior mirrors.
Door window frame is one piece (like the PB and a few early rectangular door handle cars).
Two spoke steering wheel.
John
The Foose wheels are 18" front and 19" rear. The Pirelli P-Zero tires are 245/35-18 front and 325/30-19 rear.
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Originally posted by David_Nunn:
The Foose wheels are 18" front and 19" rear. The Pirelli P-Zero tires are 245/35-18 front and 325/30-19 rear.
David understands why I'm smiling.
Welcome to 2015 folks.
David,
Thanks for tire sizes and brand/model. I appreciate it.
And George - are you smiling because Chip Foose took a page out of your playbook for recommended tire sizes when running staggered 18" & 19" rims. I wonder if he used your offset recommendations too? If that is not why you are smiling - don't keep us in the dark.
Thanks again to the both of you for the information.
Devin
Thanks for tire sizes and brand/model. I appreciate it.
And George - are you smiling because Chip Foose took a page out of your playbook for recommended tire sizes when running staggered 18" & 19" rims. I wonder if he used your offset recommendations too? If that is not why you are smiling - don't keep us in the dark.
Thanks again to the both of you for the information.
Devin
quote:He utilized the stylistic elements of the POCA logo on his license plate.....
Huh?
Explain?
Larry
I think it's obvious what Skip was shooting for, " What the Pantera should of looked like on it's release in 1971". This is achieved by Creating subtle changes
that add up to a slight change in the fit and finish of the final product. This understated approach is the goal on many of his projects. Skip's " orange diamond" interpretation would have had a much better "fit" at the Lincoln Mercury dealerships, due to it's elevated overall elegant look. That said, how about a "Shelby" edition?
that add up to a slight change in the fit and finish of the final product. This understated approach is the goal on many of his projects. Skip's " orange diamond" interpretation would have had a much better "fit" at the Lincoln Mercury dealerships, due to it's elevated overall elegant look. That said, how about a "Shelby" edition?
That logo is a long time Foose trademark, I don't think it being a Pantera or POCA came into it.