Has anyone changed the location of the horn button from the turn signal stalk to somewhere else? Looking for ideas on a location that is easy to install and use when needed while looking good and not kit-car-ish. I have a quick disconnect Momo steering wheel without an option for a horn, otherwise that would have been ideal. Any good ideas or successful relocation of the horn button out there?
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That made me laugh the first time… Now made me laugh again..
copyright Larry
That is freaking hilarious. Have you ever visited any middle eastern country? A horn is a used as often as the cylinders fire. This setup would come in handy over there.
@Fuzz posted:That is freaking hilarious. Have you ever visited any middle eastern country? A horn is a used as often as the cylinders fire. This setup would come in handy over there.
Yes… it’s a safety feature there.. -I’m coming-!!
The picture was Larry‘s “fix” for A brake light switch.. but it’s so much better suited as a horn button… You made me break - I will beep you!
Now, as a serious solution.. how about using your steering wheel center “horn button) … fun little project with big smiles when you beep your horn standing next to the car..
Glad to see my screen capture photo lives on.
but to the original question of relocating the horn, why??????
you’re not going to delete the turn signal assembly, are you??
And if you have a broken horn button, it would be so much easier to just spend $240 and buy an entire new assembly from Wilkinson
My 2¢
Larry
guys… going wireless is such a cool and elegant idea! I’m tempted to do it myself now!
Larry, I had no idea I can get a new one. Thank you.
Ok, so here's the latest. Scott, my friend/mechanic, came over last night and took out the turn signal stalk and bench tested the horn button, and it worked, so now I know it is not the horn button or any wiring in the stalk. It was late, so he had take off, but we did manage to find a bunch of relays by the front firewall on the passenger side, so he just have to figure out which one is the horn relay. We are not getting any power to the new horns, so he thinks there is a good chance the relay is bad. No clicking sound is heard when the horn button is pushed. Oh, and the fuse was good too (new fuse box and all new fuses). If it is the relay, I take it Wilkinson, Hall Pantera, or another vendor will have one.
Thank you Ron. Everything helps! Glad you kept this photo.
Fuzz
The relay panels for the '71 cars were different than the '72 and later cars. Ron's first pic is from my '71 car, 1490.
The black relay (FIAMM) is the horn relay.
John
To answer your original post, one of POCA's Swedish members once did a mod to convert his DeTomaso steering hub logo to an actual horn button. There was an illustrated article on it in the Newsletter but it has been 30 years....
So the problem is the horn relay. The stalk horn button works, the horn works (we bypassed the relay and the horn goes off when the stalk button is pressed). So I am ordering a relay today and voila, problem solved. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.
Bosswrench, I recently installed a new quick release MOMO steering wheel with the Pantera logo in the center. It would take a lot of work to modify it to take a horn button, and I might ruin the center logo with the Isis.
The 65 Shelby GT350 had a wood rimmed Cobra steering wheel installed. It had no provision for a center horn button so the solution was to put a $5 JC Whitney toggle switch on the dash.
That toggle switch now, if you can find one will probably set you back over $1,500 but the idea of a "momentary switch" on the dash would be the simplest solution.
Have you thought about repurposing the “Washer” switch?
1) It’s a momentary switch…
2) It’s in a convenient location
3) Some (many?) of us in AZ don’t use the wipers often, and some don’t have the washer pump even installed!
Rocky
I am going to build one of the wireless switches with remote relay for my Nardi steering wheel… have one horn for city (steering wheel) and one for open road / Highway (turn signal stock)
there is easily room for something smaller then the size of a box of matches!
let’s see if I can do this….. ( very optimistic ✌️)
I actually repurposed the wiper switch to activate a garage door opener that I mounted permanently in the front trunk.
Larry
@lf-tp2511 posted:I actually repurposed the wiper switch to activate a garage door opener that I mounted permanently in the front trunk.
Larry
That’s hilarious!!!😂
and you got the brake pedal horn button switch…😂😂
You need a switch on the dash to enable & disable the horn button mounted on the brake pedal!
Rocky
So after much effort, finally got the horn working. A lot of work involved. Well, a lot of time chasing down what's going on. Bench testing the horn button on the turn signal showed it worked. The new relay from Pantera Electronics was working properly. (It comes with a life-time warranty by the way! Way to go Jon.) The fuse was good. The horn is new and works when bench tested. But put it all together, and it was not working. Took it to a recommended mechanic who spent about an hour chasing a short that was drawing power from the power wire to the air conditioning relay that uses the same power wire as the horn relay. Long story short, he fixed it and now the horn works. What a headache for such a simple thing.
Granted, I never use the horn, but you know how we are...just had to have it working. 
@Fuzz posted:……Granted, I never use the horn, but you know how we are...just had to have it working.
…. Can I relate to that!!!!
It’s a disorder-I know- but I don’t care!
Does anyone have the moderna air horn option fitted to their car ? Any pictures would be appreciated .
6997 came with an full tritone air horn kit installed ( and yes it is blinkin loud !) but I was sure it was an aftermarket change until I saw the option in the 1976 catalog.
Now I am not sure if it was put in before or after.
Well from what I read and see in ProvaMo, 6997 is a real Euro GTS, so I see no reason it wouldn’t be a factory option…
Since it’s installed in your car, and matches the 1985 factory catalog…. Who would argue with you, especially if the horn button and wiring appear to be factory?
Just my €.02!
Rocky
PS… I’m somewhat of a horn aficionado, so I think those are very cool!
Well I pulled off the front cover , knocked off most the spiders and took some shots. Not allot of room for these three honkers.
The air horn metal bodies are Italian FISA horns from the right period and the mounting does look like it was done late on a friday afternoon by Giuseppe with a bad attitude when all he wanted to do was meet his ragazza in the albergo.
Maybe ?
I mounted a set of FIAMM triple air horns on the right side front wheel well panel where the original horn mounts. You can fit all 3 horns in that spot pointed down and use the original wire to the compressor they use. The sound is very cool.
