Motorcraft 160* Thermostat?

I think so. They have just been dropped because lack of "popularity.

Anyone know the Motorcraft part number for a 160?

Hey John,just bought one off E-bay.Bidding just ended.I wish I could bring up an attachment,but don't know how.Anyway,P/N RT-350G5P7-8575 was the Motorcraft # given for the 160# thermostat.If you like ,I could try and e-mail you a picture.Thanks JW

Was that the auction with the cooling tubes, hoses, and thermostat? That's a Windsor thermostat I believe. Search Yahoo for the Ford part number, you'll see many hits, all suggest Windsor.

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JWR,

As a newbie, perhaps you are not aware the Cleveland thermostat is NOT what all the other Ford small blocks use. Parts counters will often have just one number, and you'll be sold a Windsor unit instead of the proper Cleveland unit. They fit fine, but they do not function fine.

Are you sure you got a Cleveland unit?

Search the archives here for photos of the difference, or perhaps someone with them saved can repost them?

Larry

I have looked at other posts & been involved with other discussions on the Cleveland themostat.No offence George,but not all Cleveland thermostats look like the pics you show.I don't know for sure,but I accused Steve Wilkinson of selling me the wrong thermostst.He assured me it was the right thermostat,even though it looked like the winsor thermostat.Man,I don't know.I believe the Robet Shaw thermostat that was pictured was a high flow thermostat,was probable the best thermostat for the Cleveland,but was not the only Cleveland thermostat available.I checked both Winsor &Cleveland thermostats at my local Napa store.I don't claim to be an expert,but I was shown difference between the two.At the Napa store the difference was not all that noticable.

To John.The one on E-bay was for the thermostat,radiator cap,&PCV valve I just won.It's supposed to be a Cleveland thermostat.

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Originally posted by jwr2968:
...No offence George,but not all Cleveland thermostats look like the pics you show ...

jwr, no offense taken my FRIEND.

I am sorry that you are receiving so much confusing information. I can read the frustration in your post, I feel for you. In the case of the Cleveland motor, that simple little device, the thermostat, has been a pain in the butt since day one.

The Cleveland motor was designed with a hi-tech cooling system (for its day). It uses a high flow thermostat, oem. It also has a high flow recirc system, designed to eliminate steam or hot spots and to warm the motor up more quickly and more evenly. The recirc system is too high flow to allow it to remain in service 100% of the time, as is normal for all other V8s of the period. When coolant is recirculated, it bypasses the radiator. So much coolant is recirculated with the Cleveland that it can lead to overheating if it is allowed to recirc after the motor reaches operating temp. So Ford engineers designed a coolant system whereby the recirc system is shut off as the thermostat opens. This recirc passage below the thermostat, not present in any other motor, is what throws everybody off.

Take a good look at your t-stat, or better yet, stick it in a pot of boiling water until it "opens". When it opens, something must extend downward and close off the orifice below the t-stat. If this doesn't happen, you do not have a cleveland t-stat. Period. No argument. Regardless of who tells you differently, under any and all circumstances, they are wrong.

I worked on cleveland motors in the '70s, removed the oem Ford t-stats from many Mustangs, Cougars, Montegos and Torinos, they looked identical to the Robertshaw t-stat. In fact, I'll bet they were manufactured by Robertshaw.

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