Pantera LED tail, brake light conversion

ahudsonMember

I moved a former post about these lights to a new thread.

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I got the Space City kit and PE (Jon Haas) kit for the brake lights. Both are super simple installs, both work as advertised. An objective review -

Space City kit is a standard base bulb, with many 'radial fire' LEDS gang-mounted around bulb area. (Photo image, top.) Basically occupies same space as original bulb.

Pantera Electronics kit is a composite 'panel' of LEDS, evenly spaced across board, which essentially 'fills' brake light housing. (Photo image, bottom.)

Space City kit disperses an 'oval' light pattern within the brake light well, filling perhaps 70%-75% of the area with light.

Pantera Electronics kit fills brake light well completely, evenly.

Both kits install quickly.
Both kits have FASTER reaction than incandescent. (I tested both.) This alone worthy of consideration by anyone on this board who'd consider additional stopping/warning as a bonus.

Bottom Line: Pantera Electronics kit, in usual Jon Haas fashion, is expertly engineered and Pantera-specific. It is expectedly more expensive.

Space City kit accomplishes task with non Pantera specific application, yet with marginally lesser light output.

* Space City kit came with blinker bulbs. My flasher did not require additional wiring, blinkers are both faster AND brighter. Another bonus.

I would not go back to incandescent in the car. Would advise owners to take a look at your current, puny brake light output. Also reconsider illumination speed. Get the LED that fits your desire and wallet.

A Hudson
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ahudsonMember

Image of my car with the lights installed.

Space City left, Pantera Electronics right.

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7/5/116:34 AM

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manicalMember

Pantera Electronics gets my vote!!!!

7/5/116:59 AM

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Pantera 3rd&LastMember

Holy crap Adams !
What a huge difference !

I’ve bought from Haas (http://pantera-electronics.com/) and it’s so good it’s almost overdone. (Not a complaint, just an oddity in a day and age where ‘cheaper MUST be better exists.) The guy is a fan, an engineer, and doesn’t compromise.

Anyway, Adams your car will doubtless warn drivers a little earlier that they are closing in on the world’s fastest frog.

Looks really good. The cost is higher for the PE product but the safety side is worth it. One product is designed specifically for the Pantera . The other is not.
You get what you pay for.

7/5/115:23 PM

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Pantera 3rd&LastMember

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Originally posted by A Hudson:
Image of my car with the lights installed.

Space City left, Pantera Electronics right.

Hey what is that car with the flipped up rear end ?

7/5/115:33 PM

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ahudsonMember

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
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Originally posted by A Hudson:
Image of my car with the lights installed.

Space City left, Pantera Electronics right.

Hey what is that car with the flipped up rear end ?

Good eye. That's a 1984 Ferrari 'Boxer' (Berlinetta Boxer, or "BB") 512i. Injected 12 cyl car, Enzo's last hand-hammered car. The rear opened 'clamshell' like.

That car needs LEDs for sure. Have talked to Haas about that.

7/5/117:24 PM

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ahudsonMember

Now to compare the stock incandescent to the PE LED on the right. With amateur photo skills, I can't recreate the real brightness factor, so look at the lens area around the illuminated portion.

On the stock light, almost no light outside the bulb zone; on the LED, it lights up nearly the entire area. Look at the amount of light on the bumper left and right! Big diff.

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jon3613Member

The Pantera-Electronics products are designed to withstand the high temperatures of the summer sun shining directly onto the taillight lens. This will raise the temperature inside the housing.
LED's generate their own heat which must properly conducted away from the LED device, if it isn't brightness is greatly reduced.
If the design does not address both of these important temperature criteria then LED's will over-heat and dim, with imminent permanent damage for extended "ON" time.

Adams test was a low temp and momentary activation so heating could not effect either LED product. In Adams image the Pantera-Electronics LED array has a white painted reflector. Under this white paint reflector is individual heat sinks for each LED as shown in the image below.

If the taillight factory metalized reflector has deteriorated, which many times is the case, it does not effect the Pantera-Electronics performance since the entire array replaces the factory reflector.