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Getting around to replacing my oil pan and while I have it off I thought I would replace the stock rod nuts with these 12 point ARP rod nuts I bought a while back.  I'm keeping the stock rod bolts, so no resizing the rod end needed. Then I realized that the engine was balanced with the OEM 6 point rod nuts vs 12 point. Do I have a problem?  Is there any appreciable weight difference that would require rebalancing the totating assembly?  I believe these may be lighter, but have not weighed them. My questions:

#1. Am I over thinking this?

#2. Do I weigh both and see if there is any difference in weight?

#3. Do I buy the 6 point version of the ARP nut or just go with the 12 point.

I appreciate anyones educated thoughts.

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Just throwing this out for consideration, but if you’re changing all the nuts, you would change each part of the rotating assembly by the same amount.

You are also changing the weight in a balanced fashion… every 90* of rotation.

Of course, the total rotating assembly mismatch is balanced by adding “Mallory Metal” or removing material at the crank counterweights, but I would think you are changing material in a very balanced manner, AND you are changing weight by a very small amount (relatively) close to the crank centerline - where it would have less effect than if it was at the piston end of the rod.

Question:  Why are you changing the nuts?  It’s been a long time since I researched this…

Rocky

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I agree with Rocky. As long as everything is equal, you're OK. That being said,  I wouldn't mess with it. You'll be stretching the rod bolts one more time. By installing new nuts, you may not be making the assembly less likely to fail.

By the way, why does ARP package their nuts in quantities of 10?  It should be in quantities of 8. I always have 4 left over !!!   

Rocky, great points...thats why I asked, there are smarter minds here. I'm not familiar with the processing of balancing but wanted to ask. With the nuts being close to the centerline any difference would be minimized. Thanks for the insight...it clicks when someone explains it the way you did.

I'm going to find a gram scale and check the weight.

There are a few posts where George discussed rod bolt "nut failure". Here's two:

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Ford used a 26.2 in-oz balance factor while builders often used 26 in-oz. so the rod nuts used likely mean nothing unless you're racing for money. Plus, there were two different factory rod bolts (hopefully with appropriate nuts). The angle-head standard bolts and the stronger 'football-head' bolts for the higher revving Boss-351.

Many old-time builders discarded the angle-head bolts as a matter of preference, so after 50 years who knows what's in there now?  But unless you like exploring the above-6000 rpm range on your tach, it makes little difference to most of us. 

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