Vin Plate duplication

Mark I have 4416 and the corners broke off mine also. If you find a source count me in.

I have VIN tag issues to. Gary

Mark,I am interested in new vin plates for the door jam area also.Jim Coyne (tecnosound at hotmail.com) #1705 #4017 #9379

Ok guys, I see there is enough interest, I'm working on it, I'll keep you posted

tecnosound,
You luck son of a gun, not just one, not two, but THREE Panteras! LOL Good for you!

Those plates are out there somewhere. My car has a very new looking blank plate in the door jam. I assume the previous owner put that in when he did the restoration 11 or 12 years ago.

Thanks Mark,I try to remember to count my blessings-Jim Coyne

Mark, I also would like to get one let me know. Thanks.. rgehling@alltel.net

I seem to remember those plates being available from the vendors (at least Hall). Problem was getting them embossed.

Gary

I see that a vendor my have the item in question here Interior Parts, it is listed as "DOOR JAM I.D. PLATE (EARLY OR LATE)"

I went through the same problem recently, when the restoration shop working on my 1989 GT5 lost my door jamb VIN & model year plate. I bought a replacement tag from Hall, and it came in white plastic. After months of vehement denials that they ever had it, the restoration shop then found my original VIN tag behind some desk somewhere

Note that my original tag is black anodized aluminum, not white plastic. Also note that it was glued on, not riveted (it has no rivet holes in the corners). Finally, note that my VIN tag still reads "Mfd by Garrozzeria Vignale" when my car was, in fact, built by Embo.

Interestingly, mine is the only post-1978 Pantera I've seen that had a door jamb VIN plate. All the other late model Panteras I've seen have only the tire pressure decal on one side, and a metal plate with the country certifications on the other. Mine has all three. Does anyone else out there with a late model car have all three plates?

BTW, I never did figure out how to reproduce the stamping/embossing. I thought of going to a plaque engraver, but my old tag was found before I got around to it.

Mark,

Be sure to include me!

Dave # 3463
boxxboys@socal.rr.com

Same issue here. Mine is not cracked, but a previous owner buffed off the description.

Most vendors have the plate. No one has the ability to get them embossed. Not sure if they are NOS or repros.

Hey guys,
Possible lead on you vin plates. I had one replaced thru BOSS PERFORMANCE, there in Spokane WA. they specialize in Boss 429's but may be able to direct you.
Daniel

Me too Mark!

Peter H., Boxxboys, P#4134, and Downunder, I'm sorry to say that this lead has run dry (the post is over two years old) Try the tip from Daniel 9191. As for 6808, the original "chipped" vin plate was re-used =(

Regards Mark

I'm not familiar with the door jam VIN plate as I don't have one on #7024, in fact I don't have any of the plates/labels, but I'm thinking I may like to replace them for the day I have to move up to Canada and importation requirements etc.

In the past I've had machine switch labels made up locally (Reno-Sparks) by this company http://www.trippplastics.com/ The switch plates I had made were a two color laminate and they just cut down throught the top layer to expose the second color below with the lettering. They had all fonts and sizes available, so maybe someone with this type of engraving capability is what is required, although there is still the issue that it is a VIN plate duplication to overcome, depending how touchy they are on that side of things, but one should be able to show sufficient proof of ownership.

Julian

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Originally posted by Peter H:
Finally, note that my VIN tag still reads "Mfd by Garrozzeria Vignale" when my car was, in fact, built by Embo.

Hmmm... that's a misspelling, in the text and on the VIN plate (as per picture). It should be "Carrozzeria".

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Interestingly, mine is the only post-1978 Pantera I've seen that had a door jamb VIN plate.

Maybe a previous owner thought it should be there, and had it made up? That would explain the two errors.

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In the past I've had machine switch labels made up locally (Reno-Sparks) by this company http://www.trippplastics.com/ The switch plates I had made were a two color laminate and they just cut down throught the top layer to expose the second color below with the lettering. They had all fonts and sizes available, so maybe someone with this type of engraving capability is what is required, although there is still the issue that it is a VIN plate duplication to overcome, depending how touchy they are on that side of things, but one should be able to show sufficient proof of ownership.
Julian

Julian,
It's not engraved. The build date and VIN are embossed. And it's not the VIN tag. It's a build tag. GM called them trim tags.
Dan

Marcus:

The spelling of "Garrozzeria" was pointed out to me before, but then I received the replacement tag from Hall and it had the same spelling! According to Chuck Melton, who wrote an article in the Winter 2003 PI Magazine on the different VIN and other ID plates, early Panteras had different tags but, as of at least 1974, they changed to the one shown in my previous post. I think all these later tags had the "Garrozzeria" spelling, but I stand to be corrected on that.

As for the second error, some people have speculated that the reason my tag still reads "Vignale" when the coachbuilder was Embo is that DeTomaso couldn't be bothered (or were too cheap) to make up new tags and continued to slap on the old ones just because they still had them in stock.

And, yes, it's possible that the previous owner had an exact duplicate custom-made in aluminum, but why they would have done that when it's readily available for a couple of bucks, I don't know. Also, there does not seem to be a logical reason for wanting one of these tags on the car in the first place if they are not original.

I guess it's all destined to remain a mystery unless someone else has a post-1985 GT5 to compare with. What about the GT5-S and post-1985 GTS owners out there? Do any of you have the same tags on your cars? Post a photo and help us clear up this question! Or maybe someone could give Santiago a call and ask...

- Peter