3 bolt/4 bolt ford window motor mod ???...

PLT-1,
This is what I've found. Motors F19B are 3 bolt, motors F09B are 4 bolt. I have a set of both and am getting ready to install the 4 bolt.

Kenny

Thank you Kenny !!

I still can't find them w/that number iether... My car is apart and I want it back! I guess I will have to look at the 3 bolt conversion even though it's not optimum.

If anyone else has any info to add, please do.

Thanks, Paul...

Don't drive yourself crazy over finding the 4 bolt units.
The three bolt motors work perfectly.

Doug M

The number you find on an OEM Ford part are not actually part numbers per se, so you will have a hard time finding what you are looking for using those numbers. The numbers listed on the part are engineering numbers.

The first two digits describe the year the engineering was budgeted.

The third digit traditionally defines which vehicle group paid for the engineering, but with the newer parts using a numerical code, I'm not certain if that is still true.

The fourth digit describes what area of the vehicle (e.g. "B" for body, "E" for engine, etc.)

The next grouping of alpha-numeric characters in front of the dash or space on the end are a part number. It describes that specific type of part for that specific location, in any vehicle. An intake manifold, for example, is 9425.

The last digit(s) are the revision number.

So, below are two different intake manifolds engineering numbers. They would have been found on a variety of vehicles, and the numbers themselves only let you know who paid for engineering it, not which specific vehicles used it.

D4AE-9425-CB
This is an intake for a 351C and would only be found on vehicles model year 1974 or later.

C8OE-9425-C
This is an intake for a 428 CJ/SCJ and would be found only on model year 1968 and later vehicles.

Interesting fact, the "O" signifies that the Fairlane/Torino program paid for the engineering of the CJ intake manifold, not the Mustang.

Bringing this back around, after doing a little digging, I believe the "part numbers" you are seeking are as follows:

F09Z-1123394-A
F09Z-1123395-A

Note that they are very similar, but not the same. Kind of like having the numbers that are close to the combination of a lock, but not quite.

Hope this will be helpful for anyone seeking parts in the future.

Paul

One last note, there are TONS of these window motors available in the aftermarket for cheap. I saw rebuilt units for $20 on rock auto, and new for around $30. If you don't have to have factory Ford, you can get nice, clean, new parts for cheap.

Paul,

Excellent info from a new forum member.

That's what this BB is all about.



Larry

Yes, thank you very much for that engineering lesson !!....

Ford dealerships can work with the engineering numbers. The local shop refered me to another dealership that showed the parts on the shelf. I can call during biz hours and have them look at the actual motor.

The 3 hole motors are ~50 bucks plus a $20 core at napa... ~43 bucks at Rockauto with no core.
140 plus local, 90 plus online. Both cardone.

i couldnt figure it out so went w taurus mod very easy i am a moron and did both sides in a couple of hours work great

Thank you Joe... This makes me feel better...lol... I ordered new 3 hole from rockauto, gonna' get on with it.