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About a cable and tanks...

kidkidMember
1)
Had a sticky throttle cable, and did order me a new one at one of the vendors. Received a nice cable with an as nice spring. After all, the carburator side of my throttle cable, is a cable.

To my surprise, only little of the cable is a real cable, as there is a tube going through the firewall up to the throttle pedal. Exit new cable, and made me my own by use of a cable initially meant for one of my Alfa Romeo’s. Is this tube something only pushbuttons have?

2)
Those water tanks… Not that I current l have troubles with mine, but… My pressure tank has a 4th connection for a sensor (what kind of sensor btw?), and if I look around at what the vendors offer, I not longer see a place to put that sensor – where does the sensor go then?

As for the overflow tank, mine is not bigger than the pressure tank, but all I see are overflow tanks twice as big as mine. Is that something unique for pushbuttons, and if so, why suddenly a that big overflow tank (compared to mine)? And why two tanks, as all of the engine cooling systems I’ve seen so far, only use a single tank – what’s so different about a Pantera’s cooling system?

Can someone shed some light on these issues, currently a mystery to me…

Thanks,
Kid.
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lf-tp2511lf-tp2511Member
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My pressure tank has a 4th connection for a sensor

That was the original location of the temp gauge sensor.

It was not a good place. If the water level should ever drop below that point, easy to happen with a leak, the sensor would only be measuring air temp, not coolant.

BIG trouble would no doubt follow, as the gauge shows nothing wrong. But the motor is fast on a suicide journey.

Most owners have long ago moved the sensor to the proper place in the block, below the thermostat housing.

Larry
pantera1887pantera1887Member
quote:
Originally posted by Kid:
1)
Had a sticky throttle cable, and did order me a new one at one of the vendors. Received a nice cable with an as nice spring. After all, the carburator side of my throttle cable, is a cable.

To my surprise, only little of the cable is a real cable, as there is a tube going through the firewall up to the throttle pedal. Exit new cable, and made me my own by use of a cable initially meant for one of my Alfa Romeo’s. Is this tube something only pushbuttons have?

Thanks,
Kid.


If you are talking the metal tube that goes through the firewall in front of the engine, my 71 had one that was about 6” long. The old cable went through it on its way through the console. I cut the tube out of the firewall to install the new cable.

Mike
kidkidMember
quote:
Originally posted by Garvino:
There are quite a few threads on the Pantera cooling system and potential upgrades. Here are two that I just found that may help answer some of your questions. Hope they help.


They did, thanks Smiler

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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Most owners have long ago moved the sensor to the proper place in the block, below the thermostat housing.


Aha, something more for my to-do list (which gets longer and longer…).

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Originally posted by Pantera 1887:
I cut the tube out of the firewall to install the new cable.


Hmm, for now I’ll leave it like this. One day I’ll swap the current Weber for something else, and then who knows I would regret to have cut out the tube. The new fancy cable with spring will stay on a shelf in the mean time…

One thing still I can’t seem to find an answer for (yes, I’ve searched) – the size of the overflow tank. Did the size of that tank increased over time because the one as I have was too small? Should I go for the bigger version (it wouldn’t hurt I guess)?
bosswrenchbosswrenchMember
FWIW, surge and overflow tanks made during the Ford era were nickel-plated inside and out at the factory, then sprayed flat black. If you polish them, they look custom. Sadly, the factory guys should have known any plating is not a continuous coating but is made of little flat crystals lying on top of each other. Over time, water can still wormhole its way past the crystals to the mild steel underneath. After all, bumpers rust anywhere if you don't take care of them. So as a rust-preventative, plating the tanks didn't work very well.
And in relocating the temp sender, the block has a pipe plug in it that fits the tank hole, so all you do is swap the pieces. The factory wire to the sender is long enough to fit in either location. So this is really a 10-minute swap (except for draining the water down to the block hole and refilling) and only needs some teflon pipe tape on the threads.
garth66garth66"When speed is the only thing that counts"
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And in relocating the temp sender, the block has a pipe plug in it that fits the tank hole, so all you do is swap the pieces.

Better yet, put a petcock in the bung in the tank where the temp sender was originally located. Then, if you ever have to change a thermostat or water pump you can open the petcock to easily drain the top half of your cooling system. Smiler
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