air filter

Maybe

Which sucks at flowing air.  Probably one of the worst investments to put on any motor.

do you think it’s worse than the dog bone? someone did a dyno and there was no difference between the dog bone and standard (i believe a standard filter or comparable)

Worth watching

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=153247265330893

The first photo is what's referred to as a 'dog bone' filter (Holley 64280 Powercharger is the usual variant), in street motor testing with a riser plate and larger filter elements (like in the photo) on the end it didn't lose any HP and is perfectly adequate for your average street motor. In the video these guys are chasing 750HP and yes at those air volumes the filter is going to make more of a difference.

First photo is not a dogbone. The dogbone takes rectangular air filters, not the round cone filter shown in the first photograph

Larry

i’m 550hp, so shouldn’t be an issue, thanks for the help!

Dear Bell,

           FWIW, years ago Space City Panteras hosted a Dyno Day.  In their testing, the Holley Dogbone air cleaner was the only one that did not lose HP and, IIRC, actually gained a bit of power.  I was surprised.

           Recently, a friend had a 351C professionally built and dyno tested.  He had a Holley Dogbone and I related the tale of the Space City findings.  So, after the standard dyno test and tuning, the engine made 447 HP.  Then dyno test with the Holley Dogbone in place showed a stunning 20 HP gain with the top end at 467HP.  I was very, very surprised.  The engine builder could not explain it, but did say that such unexpected phenomena happen once in a great while.

            I think it is very interesting that the two dyno tests with the Holley Dogbone both show positive findings.  My friend enjoyed the engine, Holley dogbone and the 4000 mile round-trip drive to the Fun Rally this year.  There is *something* about those darn dogbones.

                  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

larry

i have the dogbone now, i was thinking this other low profile so it puts the larger filters lower out of the rear view mirror, i have a tall intake

Dan

The various answers on possible power loss come from the original dogbone body's flat top and the too-low internal clearance from air cleaner body to the carb inlet. By adding a 1/2" (or more) ring spacer, the clearance is then such that air can better make the 90 degree turn into the carb mouth. Same thing happens to a std air cleaner with a non-sculptured top & too little carb clearance.

Without a riser as originally built, there was often as much as a 40 bhp drop on a dyno. Second, there were at least three manufacturers of these things and no one's compared the internal clearance on all three, to my knowledge. The original dyno tests kind of killed the market for Panteras, even though a simple ring spacer later corrected the problem. I've seen a couple of high-horse Panteras with the engine screen cut out around a taller dogbone.

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