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You guys should post pictures here and not rely on eBay....they don't preserve anything but the memory of money parting from your hands......!  ))))

I couldn't find any stickers........but did find all sorts of air filter elements and nonsensical BS.....!!!  Stupid suggestion policies......(My opinion only.....)
Ciao!
Steve

OK, I'm perplexed.....   No where have I ever seen the HP version of the air cleaner decal prior...... doesn't mean that they don't exist....most air cleaner decals are probably dust on the side of the road somewhere.......

More cars seem to have nothing vs "with decals".....

I believe that the first pic is a car at the factory......

Second is the one that I believe Hall was selling a few years ago, perhaps they still are, but it "seemed" like the ones that I had seen on cars prior.  OR they were simply decorated along the way.  But is seems to be the same color/design as the first one......  PS: This is a "forged" air cleaner that I made up to fit my car with a slightly taller intake.....using an old 68-69 Ford truck version as a base to build on.

SO, where did the HP decal come from, ie when in production based upon SN's seen with this type.

I like it also!!!
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Steve, I put this sticker in the category of Nate's carb setup --things that weren't, but maybe should have been Some brilliantly talented people are piecing together their Mangustas, always fun to see...

  Yeah, Hall still has repros of the original air cleaner, I just bought my pair a few weeks ago---but just to have around, maybe the originals are Ok (good thing stickers can't rust ).

Somebody correct me, but I don't think the tire pressure sticker has been repro'd before. And every time I think of the crazy, obsessive owners who left these on their glove box, then I wonder where (when now I'm obsessed with putitng them back On) where that leaves me...Lee

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Lee,  Edited 7/18 for factual accuracy!  S

Regarding pistons in 302s.    They were the same for 2V or 4V engines.

(FYI- it is in 1969 in the 351W engines where dished pistons were used in 2V engines vs flat tops for 4V engines!)

The 302 head castings are clearly marked 2V or 4V inside the valve cover area between valve springs, however the valve springs, valve size, camshafts are SHARED 2V and 4V!!!!   Surprised me!!!

The 2V and the 4V were otherwise essentially the same engine, but for the intake manifold and perhaps the curve on the distributor! The 4V carb offers a few CFM more than the two barrel version, but the choked down exhaust passages and manifolds continue to be the same..... Only the dual exhaust varies from single.   Questionable how much flow the extra pipe really offers......vs the single larger pipe.....in the end!

I think SGC's statement was.....understated.  What does a bunch of kids with pencils  know....?  I don't think they ever figured out a proper "third" write up of this project.....    They threw a lot of parts at the car.....but I wonder about the thought process and subsequent execution.

I need to dig out my copies of this writeup and refresh the grey matter!

There is a LOT more potential out of a stocker 68 302!   The intake ports are huge and you have a 10.5:1-ish compression ratio with essentially closed chamber heads.    The ONLY things holding it back are the puny exhaust ports, which Shelby(?) fixed with the specially ported GT40 heads that were used for LeMans etc, and the dismal low lift camshaft!

Port the exhaust side of the heads mildly, (get rid of the air injection "bump") and put in a HiPo 289 grind cam or bigger, and you have a better breathing small block to play with up to at least the 6000 level RPM's!

Toss in some forged pistons and better rod bolts with that bigger camshaft,  and you are rolling now!  400HP is easy. (300 at the rear wheel!)

Ciao!
Steve

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Here is the article (series), doing the familiar hot rod tricks (351W heads with bigger valves...). And I'll admit, I just keep looking at the loop on the water valves in the engine bay and wonder if someone just got their Left and Right brackets mixed up (exchanging the brackets orients the exit to the front of the car and avoids the loop...but just one of those things...).

And here (some 10+ years since the question was asked), wow, source photos of that build ...and damn, look, the carb is backwards https://archive.petersen.org/pages/search.php search on "Tomaso", Mangusta, "1969 AK Miller Engine rebuild," or "1969 British Motor"...starting on the show room at British Motor cars in Anaheim. Lots of tiny details, I'd never noticed the screws for the carpets in the rear wheel wells (but there they are in 8ma1074 also), noted the 2 different designs used for hanging the paper intake tubes (ohm shape on the left, lasso'd on the right), that the asbestos frame was made simply from strap...). Some pictures are pre-engine removal, and I'll bet that the jack shaft was left off for all the track testing using that high rise manifold...the car here in the 8ma700-800 range, I think.

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