Check a car in california?

I went to see the car and went for a ride back in April 2003 when it didn't sell on ebay (top bid was $25K). In my opinion, you better like strong metalic paint to be satisfied with the car. Looked great from a distance, but close up it is pretty heavily flaked metalic in my opinion. That was the only thing that steered me away from buying it, along with a few other things I saw. The paint was just a personal preference I couldn't make myself get used to. But if you like metalic, it may be for you.

Metalic paint dosn't bother me, but I havn't seen much 'heavy' metalic paint, guess I'll need to look at it.
From the pictures this looks like a heck of a car for 25K; gp 4 flares, wing, etc.

Is the body work great, or is it noticably shody?
What steared you away besides the paint?
Did you look for rust in the horse shoe area?

Thanks for replying.

The link below shows more of a close up of the paint. It doesn�t really display the metallic that well, but it is the best close up I have of the car. Remember this is just my preference, in that I just couldn�t get myself to buy a Pantera with metallic paint. It just made me think of a low rider with the metallic paint each time I looked at it, and somehow the mix of metallic paint on a Pantera just didn�t suit me. And when I say heavy metallic, I just mean that the flake did not appear to be a fine pearl type of metallic, but then again, it wasn�t supper huge metallic either. If you have no problem with metallic paint, then this should not concern you however.

Besides the paint, I am not sure of any rust issues or not. These things are difficult to determine without a magnet, or poking around in key spots, or at a minimum having the car on a lift. If I was ready to make an offer, I certainly would have taken it in for a thorough inspection on a lift. The body looked good, such as no door dings that I could see, etc.

Also another reason I didn�t make an offer is that I am pretty picky, and tend to choose top notch show cars to make offers on, and this one would require some work to get it up to my standards. I tend to be a perfectionist nut, and the wife complains endlessly about how picky I am, so don�t take my opinion about this matter to be how you may judge the car yourself. You may find it to be excellent depending on your degree of �pickiness�.

I may take another look at the car if I get a chance, but just been too busy lately to do much of anything.

Oh, one last thing, the wife had divorce papers ready if I bought another Pantera anyway.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/97287519/116401777ofUxIq

Milehighpan, did you get a chance to take a look at the car? I tried to touch base via email through the ebay email system ("ask seller a question"), and also the email that seller provided to take another look at the car and post results, but no email returns. If you are bidding, I hope you had better luck than me connecting to have a thorough inspection of the car.

Thanks 200,
I appreciate your time on this. I know I am not as picky as you because my pocket book just won�t allow it. Thanks for the photo, I guess I need to get an overall look at the car. A guy in our local Pantera club has a metallic green car with gp 4 flares, 427 etc, (the previous owner was a Korean war ace, (local hero type) and the car is awsum!

I have been trying to contact the seller also and have had no luck. If you hadn�t actually seen the car I would have thought the whole thing was totally bogus. If I get the car I get it, but I ain�t writing the guy a check until I see & check it out myself. I may have overbid considering I don't know what the cars has etc.
The deal is starting to stink a little bit, was the guy normal when you talked to him?

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Originally posted by milehighpan:
Thanks 200,
I appreciate your time on this. I know I am not as picky as you because my pocket book just won�t allow it. Thanks for the photo, I guess I need to get an overall look at the car. A guy in our local Pantera club has a metallic green car with gp 4 flares, 427 etc, (the previous owner was a Korean war ace, (local hero type) and the car is awsum!

I have been trying to contact the seller also and have had no luck. If you hadn�t actually seen the car I would have thought the whole thing was totally bogus. If I get the car I get it, but I ain�t writing the guy a check until I see & check it out myself. I may have overbid considering I don't know what the cars has etc.
The deal is starting to stink a little bit, was the guy normal when you talked to him?

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Looks like "Oldschool" bought it as shown on the link below. Is Oldschool you? Actually the seller (Leo) was nice when I met with him months ago about the car. So this was odd that we were both not getting any replys to emails about the car. It could be that it just met the reserve, and once that occurred, he decided he was done with it all.

To be honest, the bodywork and paint job seemed to be done well, and the engine was respectable Hall (not a beater engine, but no killer either). Other than that, all else needed some work in my opinion, to get it even close to a nice respectable car, which I suspect could be done over time. I believe the final price was a fair price for both seller and buyer based on what I saw, although I would have pegged it closer to $30K.

Also, just to clarify, I sure don't have lots of $ either, but I tend to save and then blow it on nicer more complete cars. If you get a chance, I sure would like to see a photo of that metallic green group 4 that you mentioned. That really would be something to see. Sounds ugly to imagine it, but with these cars you never know, it could actually look great.

(sorry for the edits, the link below got messed up)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2458022509&category=6472

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200,
Well, yes I am oldschool (more like old fool).
Because I have never talked to the seller, I feel no obligation to purchase the car. For all I know Leo has been in a bad accident.... Time will tell.
I send a photo of the 'green beast' if I get one. I haven't been able to attend meetings lately due to business travel.

Thanks again for all the detail.
Milehigh

I think this is the car milehighpan is talking about. As posted on the Colorado Pantera Club site. http://www.coloradopantera.com/images/arvada2003/tom.jpg

Terry Marsh
2207

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Originally posted by milehighpan:
200,
Well, yes I am oldschool (more like old fool).
Because I have never talked to the seller, I feel no obligation to purchase the car. For all I know Leo has been in a bad accident.... Time will tell.
I send a photo of the 'green beast' if I get one. I haven't been able to attend meetings lately due to business travel.

Thanks again for all the detail.
Milehigh

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Don't feel like an old fool, as I believe you may like the car once you see it. If you actually like metallic paint, you will enjoy seeing this car in person. I think it is a good starter with nice body and the interior etc. can be worked on over time (but I personally would check the car for any rust or accident issues first). I do now remember one more thing, in that the windshield has a foggy spot (about 4 inches or so) near the middle of the dash area, so if you are somewhat picky you would need another windshield also (at least that is what I saw months ago).

Leo did seem like a good honest guy, but he did mention he had some health issues when I looked at the car, so maybe take that into consideration as to why we have no email replies right now too. However, if you won the bid, I just wonder how you may see the car and pay for it if you like it.

Also terry2, thanks for the green car photo...that actually looks nice (to me anyway).

I have a Leo phone number if needed.

Thanks Terry2, that is the car, & It looks better in person.

200,
Leo replied that the car is sold; win some lose some.

I already have a 'starter' car. I'm just thinking that I can put 10K into what I have or move up in a good deal and save myself some trouble-etc.

Maybe I'll post in the future on car values,
groupe IV flares etc. I can't believe that car topped out at 25K in an earlier auction.

Sorry for the late reply but I was in a foregin country & work took it's toal for a couple of days.

Thanks again & keep the faith,
Milehigh

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