Hello from a new member and new owner

Congratulations! I hope you're not disappointed upon arrival. The Detomaso E-mail List may also be a great help. I access it through the Pantera Owners Club of America (POCA) website.

Welcome to the wonderful world of deTomaso.

You can sign up for the deTomaso e-mail list at:
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Welcome! You've come to the right place!!

Congratulations !

Hi Vario-Rob. Are you going to try and find those other nine guys? They may have extra parts laying around or know if any parts interchange from other more abundant cars. What are you going to do with your Deauville? Drive it, of course, but like restore it, enter rally events, probably not,that might tear it up, just go fast when the opportunity presents itself and do tight turns, or go to black tie events like the opera? I guess you could do all the above, but what are you thinking for down the road, investment 'vehicle'? Just curious, and making conversation, we do that here, and we dring our beer cold and put ice in already cold sodas, too. I was in GB once and man, that was fun, everybody wanted to talk to me because I had a 'different' accent. That was fun, wish I had stayed a little longer, that was great, being a 'hit' just because of a different 'accent'. I have to do that again. regards, VFI in USA

In the Winter 2004 issue of Pantera International Magazine, we have an all-color feature on a special DeTomaso Deauville that even has a rare photograph of a Deauville on a racing circuit. You are invited to join the club
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Tally-Ho, my good chap!

Good luck V-R!

Michael

Hi Rob.
Congratulations to your new baby. I had 2 of them, a blue 1975 and a red 1977. They were great cars and made a lot of fun. This red 1977 is featured in the newest issue of the Pantera International Magazine. 6 pages full in colour.
There was a great feature in the October issue of the british Auto-Italia Magazine about a Deauville from down under. Is this yours?
Franz Krump
Austria

Hi Rob,

Congratulations! If you haven't done so already, you need to get in touch with the Detomaso Driver's Club in the UK. They are a very active group with regular meets, and have all kinds of contacts that could come in handy if you need parts, advice, or sympathy.

Regarding buying a car sight unseen, I purchased my GT5-S unseen from Franz Krump, who ironically has posted just above me here. Long story made short - I understand your nervousness but in my case it worked out very well, and I made a new friend in the process. (Hi Franz!!)

Good luck!

Here's a link to the UK detomaso club. It so happens to have a Deauville on its cover page.

http://www.detomasodc.co.uk/

Many thanks for the big welcome folks it all seems very friendly (unlike football forums)

And now to answer a few questions

Husker and Jim- ‘By ek guvenor’ there is a whole world of information on there so thanks for that

Kevin and Coz – Many thanks

Veryfast Italian – The plan is to get it to a near to original as possible and in essence I will tackle the mechanics first and see if I can get a good summers use out of it and then turn my attention to the bodywork next winter. The interior is pretty OK but I will get the leather re-conalised sp.

In terms of events it will come down to Le Mans in June as a car to carry all the gear in and drive part of the track in on the Friday. I would not dare to mention what other cars I have on this forum for fear of being kicked out in the first week. It will also come to the Goodwood festival of speed which some of you may have heard about.

As for the beer, I’m afraid being British it’s warm and brown which causes some of your countryman a few problems when they get here. For what it’s worth my own part of the country is home to many Americans being the HQ for the USAF in Europe at both RAF Mildenhall and Lakenheath so watching F1-11’s SR 71’s F4’s and F15’s over the years has been good fun, we have four American families on our street alone

Cyboman – Our wonderful Mr Bliar (Blair) has banned fox hunting so unfortunately ‘Tally Ho’ is consigned to history, he will have us driving at 55 next!

Charlie- We have actually met old mate at Le mans last June. On the Friday down at Arnage you parked your Pant up next to my 993C2S (now it’s out of the bag) and there was much admiring of the GT5. We’ve also had a bit of sparing on www.pistonheads.com about the old Le Mans weekend

Si – I have just had a subscription to Auto Italia for my birthday so I will try and get a back issue and have a look. With an Si you are a very lucky chap indeed, I think it might be the one in the current edition of the DDC UK magazine?

I have joined the Drivers Club and have had really helpful input from Roger Brotton and I’m calling him tomorrow as he is running an article on the import in the magazine which is good.

Kevin – Many thanks mate, as a club they are a whole lot friendlier than the PCGB! Not surprising really!

:-) I sold my 92 911C4 to get my current GT-5.
I have a 914-6 waiting in the back yard for it's turn to be restored.
You're in great company.....

>>next to my 993C2S (now it’s out of the bag)<<

What's a

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993C2S

? Can you post a picture of it on the "other cars" topic so I'll know? That way this thread here doesn't take forever to load up on my computer and the topic go on. Jack Daniels and Levi's were hot in Europe in the 70's and 80's, International Herald Tribune was advertising a Pantera located in Spain for 1 million Spanish Lira, back then about $8,000 I think. Spanish Palma Malorca were cool places to vacation....

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Originally posted by Vario-Rob:

Charlie- We have actually met old mate at Le mans last June. On the Friday down at Arnage you parked your Pant up next to my 993C2S (now it’s out of the bag) and there was much admiring of the GT5. We’ve also had a bit of sparing on www.pistonheads.com about the old Le Mans weekend

A-ha! When I read the line about your plans to attend Le Mans I was going to write back, but then I continued reading and saw that you will in fact be there! Great! I'm planning on it as well.. We'll coordinate on PH so as not to totally hijack this thread... Will you be staying with the UK Driver's club or closer to the action in one of the campsites? I'll be in Bleu, myself....

Hi Rob.
I haven't seen the new DTDCUK Magazine yet, but I have sent some pics to Phil Stebbings a while ago. If it is a blue Targa, it's mine.
In the meantime we have booked our flights for the Festival Of Speed, maybe we can meet us there.
Hi Charlie.
Thank you for your comments.
Hope all is well with you, Amaya and your car.
Can you drive your car in Spain now?
Austria looks like Sibiria. -20°C in the morning and a lot of snow.
Waiting for spring.......
Franz

Hi Franz!

-20? Sorry to hear that :-)

Here is is brutally cold... they say it may even go down to zero C tonight ;-) It is actually good weather for a Pantera - they don't use salt here and there is no risk of overheating!

I'm not driving the car at the moment, but that is due to the fact that I was stopped by the Spanish police back in November for a routine document check. VERY long story. It turns out that I am only allowed to drive in Europe with my US driver's license for 6 months - then I need to obtain a EU license. I've been in Europe for, oh, 7 years now, so they weren't very happy with me. I have to park the Pantera until I get my license.

The good news is that I have my driving test next week, so hopefully I will be free to terrorize the Spanish highways soon!

Hi guys
Myabe there is a chance we could meet up at LeMans this year, I was there in 2003 with the DTDCUK and will be going again this year, I will be staying in the usual hotel the CLub use every year but would love to meet up for a beer over the weekend. As you probably know from my post elsewhere on this site, my Pantera suffered an electrical fire a few weeks ago, I trailered the car over to Roger Brotton in the Uk and they have just started work on it, a short from the alternator side of the wiring, unfortunately it has gone right through the loom under the dash to the front earth points, even fried the fuel tank sender earth, hopefully it will be in order for Lemans 2005, iff not I will still be there as I bought a BB512i last summer,so I wont be short of a ride. Would be a pleasure to meet some new DT enthusiasts.
Steve

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Originally posted by Charlie McCall:

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Originally posted by Vario-Rob:

Charlie- We have actually met old mate at Le mans last June. On the Friday down at Arnage you parked your Pant up next to my 993C2S (now it’s out of the bag) and there was much admiring of the GT5. We’ve also had a bit of sparing on www.pistonheads.com about the old Le Mans weekend

A-ha! When I read the line about your plans to attend Le Mans I was going to write back, but then I continued reading and saw that you will in fact be there! Great! I'm planning on it as well.. We'll coordinate on PH so as not to totally hijack this thread... Will you be staying with the UK Driver's club or closer to the action in one of the campsites? I'll be in Bleu, myself....

I had to laugh, Alejandro's 'Neighborhood' Bar isn't a neighborhood bar at all. It's really Alejandro's Global Bar. Bar stools all over the world.

At least once in my life, I have to go to the 25 Hours of Le Mans. Maybe I can find you guys and hook up in 2006 or 2007, but I have to go see that. Hope you guys get can together for the event. Don't forget to have a toast for the guys on the other side of Alejandro's Neighbohood Bar with those European pilsners in your hands. We'll have a toast for you guys at 2005 PCNC's Track Event.... "To the European Pantera Chapters, that they share friendship and good times together at track events on the other side of the world!" Maybe a group of us should plan to go and get group rates thru a travel agency.

Si

I reckon that’s your car in the DDC magazine then. Sounds like a good idea for Goodwood, I’ve sorted a hotel out fairly close by as this weekend is one the lady enjoys coming to as well.

For general amusement whilst admiring the Pantera in the ‘winged cars’ display next to the main house with a lovely 930, Countach and several others I noticed a rather famous film director stood next to me, he of Star Wars fame. Anyway I was busy trying to get my lady’s attention to point him out as he was literally two feet away

“What do want?”

I carried on tugging at her hand

“Who’s he?”

We left promptly

God bless her, I also saw JayKay of Jamaraqui sp. fame and tugged at her hand again

“Who’s the little man honey?”

She’s Canadian which explains most of it. Goodwood none the less is an absolutely fantastic celeb spotting aside!

Stephen

I’m staying in Alencon with the DDC staying only a few miles up the road at Neufchatel. The hotel we are in is the Ibis being bang in the centre of the town and a very nice place it is as well. Normally there is a wealth of exotics parked up around the town centre and our regular watering hole is the ‘Braserie des Ducs’ which has a constant supply of 1664 being brought to the table. If I recall correctly a gaggle of the DDC came into Alencon last year because lets face four or five Pantera’s will make their presence felt and heard.

Depending on how long it takes Rogers garage to sort the Deauville out once it has arrive will dictate its presence at this years race but if like you it hasn’t then there is always another to take. Possibly not the place to say it but the BB is a long time favourite of mine. Either way Charlie’s Pant really stole the show down at Arnage on the Friday

Veryfast Italian

Do it and do it now, you will never regret it and want to keep going back. I am sure there are plenty of travel companies who can offer a package from the US of A?. It really is far more than just a race. The drive down from GB, terrorising the French Police, plenty of food and booze and the Hawaiian Tropic girls.

The French Police now destroy a radar detector if they find you using one and fine you anywhere between £500 and £4000 for a speeding. Two years ago a bloke got imprisoned for being caught at over 200 in a Diablo. Makes you think!

There are always plenty of American and Canadians who make the trip and we have always bumped into loads of South Africans as well over the years so it really is an international affair. The Japanese have cleared off in recent years but in terms of standing there waving their Nissan or Toyota flags constantly for 24 hours, you’ll never see anything like it. We went for the beers hours earlier and stayed there

For what it’s worth about 10 years ago we say above the ADA Pantera pit, fantastic!

The racing in recent years hasn’t really been much good compare to the glory days of Group C and Jaguar but it is far more than just a race.

Hi Rob.
I'm looking forward to seeing my car in the DDC magazine soon.
We will be at the "FOS" the whole Saturday with Gavin Hutton from the DDCUK. You could see his black cat last year at the "winged wonders" display.
Hi Charlie.
Bad story. We hold our fingers crossed for your driving test.
Franz

Ok Rob
I will be in Neufchatel with the DTDC, last time i was there a few of us went to Alencon for the day but I was the only Pantera driver, Like I said it will depend on whether the car is ready in time, if not i will drive the Boxer, I was just talking to Roger yesterday and the wiring has burnt right through to the front of the loom under the dash, a dead short but as yet he has not determined the cause, the car is now stripped of its interior but how long it takes I dont yet know.
Charlie
it would be great to meet you also and see your car, if you remember you were a great help to me via emails when i was considering a Pantera 3 years ago.
Steve

Hi all,

Yes, Steve, I remember talking with you when you were in the market for your car. It's a shame what happened to it, but if you can drown your sorrows while driving your Boxer, then at least that is quite some consolation!

Anyone state-side who is considering attending Le Mans - DO IT! It is an experience you will never forget, and it is so much more than simply a car race. The atmosphere is simply amazing. Please consider this an open invitation to tag along with us, and I'd be happy to make reservations and/or arrangements for anyone interested.

As we get closer to Le Mans, we'll need to start a separate topic to see if we can all meet up at some point, be it Friday morning on Indianapolis during the "driving of the course", or at the hotel, or campsite, or ???