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this was sent to me by a friend, i think many on this board can appreciate the views presented especially at this state of the economy

nazgul
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Subject: The Boss


To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.
However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.

First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside.
You've seen my big home at last years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life. However, what you don't see is the back story.

I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I
was trolling through the Goodwill store extracting any clothing item that didn’t look like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that
eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and
breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the
vacations... You never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life
for. Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why: I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes... Unemployment taxes.
Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him... Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you’d quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly government mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the poor of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth
and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more. Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I’m done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the
productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach,
retired, and with no employees to worry about....

Signed,
Your boss
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I'm curious, Boss, which country would provide you a better place to build your business? And which beach would you go sit on after you turned your back on it? And whose banking system would you trust to watch all your money?

We may not be in the best of all possible places but for the life of me I cannot think of anywhere better.
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My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries.


What complete and utter bullshit! Go ahead and fire everyone, then try running your stupid business all by yourself again and see how well you do. You would hire no one if they didn't make YOU money.
It IS the middle class that made this nation great, not the rich and not the poor. Henery Ford invented the middle class and it took you rich fat bastards thirty years to completely destroy them. The middle class is dead now and the whole world economy is in the shitter because of it you moron! Good luck selling whatever it is you do to poor starving people, you miserable little dick.
The facts are accurate, but I would never complain about them to an employee unless I wanted to continue the endless divide between labor and management.

People with wealth should NEVER complain about how it sucks to be successful to people who aren't wealthy. That is a douche move. And it pisses off DeTom! :-)

Just to set the tone of my opinion, I am management (owner), but not rich.

R.
Hey guys sorry to burst your bubble. Many of my friends who have businesses with 10 to 15 employees have stated similar views. Cloning yourself (or even your views) is very difficult and many employees don't really care about the giving the 'boss' their 8 hours worth of work. Two close friends have even said they would gladly go back to their 1 (or 2) man operation. Yes, a lesser income but also fewer headaches and a better contol over the whole process. Too many people have 'employee mentality' and assume the 'Company' doesn't need their 100% or the 'Company' can afford this or that new device (or name it). Remember we are all broke at a different level. Except that if you have a Million dollsr business odds are it's backed by a large credit line, mortage and/or receivables. One view is not the same when it's your hard earned money on the line. Think about next January's mortgage payment instead of next Thursday's paycheck.
Just my 2 cents worth. He is a pompous ass, why take care of the people who helped get him to the point he can retire on some beach. That attitude is so common these days no loyalty to anyone.
Remember a few years ago that clothing or furniture company burned to the ground near christmas time. The owner continued to pay his employees until the plant was rebuilt. Now that is the type of American I would like to be!
Jeff
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Originally posted by OSOFAST:
Remember a few years ago that clothing or furniture company burned to the ground near christmas time. The owner continued to pay his employees until the plant was rebuilt. Now that is the type of American I would like to be!
Jeff


Talk about turning lemons into lemonade! The good press, and employee good will, should make up for the lost revenue.

I would do that if I could.

R.
" Remember a few years ago that clothing or furniture company burned to the ground near christmas time. The owner continued to pay his employees until the plant was rebuilt"

Yea you know why .. it cost $ 5.35 to make an article of clothing and they sell it for $ $80.00 .. with all the minumum wage people that were making him millions he could afford to do it. The contracting business overhead is 20% and profit 10% if your lucky and the men are getting paid 65.00 per hr just wages and benefits and there getting a raise of 3.75 in may .. in this economy.

I down sized my company from 90 employees to 20 now .. It was the biggest damn baby sitting job I ever had in my life. Now I Project Manage all my jobs and I'm happier with Jeans and a Sweat Shirt because I'm not running the inefficent unorganized giant Union coverup I was running 6 years ago.


Sorry I have to agree specifically with this !

" Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why: I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes... Unemployment taxes.
Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him... Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch."

Sorry Men but the reason business are going out is because when you go for a Business Loan, a Bond, Line of Credit .....YOU HAVE TO SIGN PERSONALLY ..which means if you default they take your house. Is it worth the risk ? no. When it becomes marginally profitable the same guy who gambles in business ...gambles OUT OF BUSINESS.

What really puts the knife thru the heart of small business people ...is why the F$%# are they bailing out all the crooks ? Politicians, Banks, Wall Street Boys, Insurance Co's, etc. The bailout small business's need is low taxes and stimulous to CONTINUE producing a product or service in a country that is TAXING US TO F$%^&*( death.

What happened to old fashion values, morals, efficency, which the employees were proud and loyal ... I was brought up this way ... the goverment encourages people to go on welfare ..they give the car service.

This is not one single problem .. this is a wide spread problem.
This argument is a no win issue, bound to piss off one half of the people every time. But still good points on both sides.

He's a pompous ass for talking down to his employees. He does not appreciate their work as much as his own.

But his complaint about small business risk takers getting the shaft, while the crooks get the bailout, has merit. It's not about management vs labor, it's about fair reward.

The government is my 50% partner - but only on the profit side. Losses are all mine. And if I want a bailout, or a loan from a bank, I have to put up 150% of what I want from them. Really makes a lot of sense.

Is there a better system somewhere else? I doubt it. But it still is far from fair and could be improved with better control of OUR money. After all, when government spends money, where do you think they get it? From you and me.

Maybe they should listen to us before they spend it. Because a lot of their decisions are downright stupid. And based on their record, they should not be in business.

Maybe government should work on commission - the better they do, the more they get.
I’m with David on there being merits to both sides of this letter, and Ron makes some great points too. The tone of the letter is clearly of someone who has gone beyond the end of his rope.

There are a lot of days recently when I feel that the amount of red tape I have to navigate, and risks I endure just to run my businesses while following the rules, are not worth the return. I treat my people extremely well, pay well, ensure they have a safe workplace and the proper tools to do their jobs well — and they do. It’s a fair trade of work for pay and I return all the loyalty they show to their jobs. We’ve had plenty of slow weeks and never a layoff in 15+ years.

The thing that governments don’t get is that the balance is shifting well into the red now. North American business can’t compete with those in many other countries where the wages, burden of labour laws, environmental regulations and taxes are substantially lower. To me it has always been worth it to run my companies where I do because I know that the quality of life is great and the return on my investment (physically, mentally and financially) allows me to enjoy a great life. That is changing because the mental and financial investments are climbing substantially and the return is dropping.

I haven't reached the point where I will close it all down, but I am getting closer. Partially, no doubt because I have lived fairly responsibly and saved almost enough to survive without it, and partly because I am getting older, more tired and less able to endure the crap. And then I look back and I see what generations before mine had to do just to obtain a tiny fraction of the comfort and wealth that most now take for granted and I think maybe we really ARE just a bunch of whiners.

Mark
Just out of curiousity, since this is such a polarized letter, of the people who posted, who are employees and who are employers (some are pretty obvious)?

I am an employer and I agree with the intent and emotion behind this letter although I do not agree with the method of expression or some of the specifics.

Larryw-to answer your questions....(and please read with tongue in cheek)
1. Who cares?!? I'm retired I don't need to build the business anymore.
2. Are you kidding !??!? Any beach in the Carribean or Lesser Antilles.
3. Who else!??! The Swiss.
4. If know you're not in the best place how come you can't think of any place better? Also if you can't think of any place better you need to get out more.
Points well taken.

Think about it this way .. observe how much time you spend, dealing with paying taxes, dealing with regualtory issues, permits, Goverment fees like customs, tolls, the increase in Fuel prices due to gas taxes, prevailing wages, etc. all items that might be dealt with if the goverment had the burden and just taxed us a flat fee 30% to everyone .. you could use that time in your office to do more advertizing for new work etc... actually working on your business not in it all the time.

Ron
I myself am in the employed catagory. I have owned two businesses in my life and neither went in the direction that provided stability.
I would like to point out a couple of things. I guess the guys in Canada tax code is very close to the European tax system. I can say that I think no one here in the states can say they would want to own a business in any European country. I know they tax the heck out of everyone. But also to that point the Europeans really look out for their citizens much much better then they do here in the US.
Jeff
" Europeans really look out for their citizens much much better then they do here in the US."

Is that because they have Solicized Medicine and Solcialize Employment and Substidies for the Employeer ?

This is all paid thru goverment taxes ....you dont get nothing for nothing.

Look this is the greatest country in the world ..and the greatest system ..but I think it went astray 25 years ago.

When I see the Public Employees driving brand new Town trucks home for commuting purposes to work. Do you give all your employees cars to commute to work ? With gas and tolls ?

Did anyone see the Interview with the United Steel Workers Leo Gerard where he states"

" The difference is very simple on that issue. Most of the transplants ( toyota hyundi nissan etc)have been here less than 30 years. I think in total they might have 300 retirees."

" American auto industry, the big three, have over a million retirees that they provide healthcare to. The fact of the matter is that if we had universal healthcare in America, like most of the rest of the industrialized world, that would not be the burden that's put on the auto industry. It's a huge competitive disadvantage. "

Ron
I am now and have always been an employee. Mainly because I never felt the drive needed to run my own business. In my opinion people who start businesses that thrive do so because they feel a need to do so. The business becomes their identity. The people who do it JUST for the money usually fail. Your business IS who you are. My uncle was a business owner. He worked six days a week, sixteen hour days his whole life. He almost never even took a vacation. He was also a very happy man who never wanted to be anything other than what he was. He died in his eighties but he never did "retire". He also left his children many millions of dollars and a thriving business.
I never wanted that. I like who I am. A miserable crumudgeon. Smiler
So many good points, on both sides. Someone else sent me the "boss" letter, which I agree with the BASIC theme, but in no way the threatening, griping delivery.

I think David B said, "But his complaint about small business risk takers getting the shaft, while the crooks get the bailout, has merit. It's not about management vs labor, it's about fair reward."

I'm a small business owner, 10 employees, under $3m, fairly large gross margin (only to say we incentivise well for 'producers') and a healthy - at the moment - net. My top guy makes almost 3 times what administrative makes. We all recognize the team commitment, much of the revenue-share is spread to non-producers since they participate in the whole.

David B went on to say...

"The government is my 50% partner - but only on the profit side. Losses are all mine. And if I want a bailout, or a loan from a bank, I have to put up 150% of what I want from them. Really makes a lot of sense."

Amen. We spend about $80,000 a month here staying in business; peanuts to many, but enough to me. If I went - say 90 days in the negative - it'd be lights out, and no funeral party for my business either.

This SOUNDS like I'm saying, "Let the failures fail" but the other side is who "wins" if they (the big failures) do? A tough one. God teaches new lessons every day, and I'm sure trying to learn.

Good to hear different viewpoints.
Ron I do agree with you 100% like I said the Europeans are taxed to death. Look at London, they want to make it so expensive to drive into London that you cant afford to do anything except use mass transit. Think that could happen here?? I do believe this is the greatest country on earth, how many other places let people have discussions along the lines we have here. No matter how much the media make it sound like the world hates us, how many people are dying to still come here!
Jeff
Jeff,

No doubt the systems in the world are leaning heavy toward tooo much Government .. I had a discussion at a party in Spain once with a group from Venezuala .. needless to say a was very distracted by the beautiful women ... Ok ! back to the point .. they talked about Bush this and Bush that ... I asked them ... why are you living here in Spain and not in Venezuela ? Then they started stuttering ... I said OHHHH Chavez ? Thats what I thought ... so dont ...I told them I dont want to here about BUSH ! " At least we have a Middle class!"

...and my Dutch friends state 90% of Holland was praying for Obama.

Who knows lets just hope a lot of good comes out of all of this .. and everyone reverts back to good morals, ethics, and hard work be kind to one another .. and we remain proud to be Americans ... and Canadians and lead the world by example.

Ron
I often have office parties at my home. I drive my cat to the office and show it off to my employees just like I would to anyone else.

Why not? They have lots of stuff that I don't have - timeshares, country homes, hobbies and friends. And best of all they get four weeks off every year to enjoy it!

They take extra unpaid holidays whenever they want and work a daily schedule that fits their family life and their activities - not mine.

I have no problem showing them the fruits of my labors. I'm in the office before them and still there while they're on their 4th beer at home. I'm on pretty much 24/7 and live in a pressure cooker of my own design. They know it and I'm sure that none of them want to trade places with me.

I bail my employees out of divorces, breakups, legal problems and they depend on me to help their families out with whatever. I do this to keep them happy and productive. That's what an employer does.

Their only worry is that if the stress kills me, who will take care of them?
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I bail my employees out of divorces, breakups, legal problems and they depend on me to help their families out with whatever. I do this to keep them happy and productive. That's what an employer does.

Can you use an unemployed Union Inside Wireman who still speaks a bit of my high school French? Wink
Just kidding; I won't do Winters with snow. My eight years in Maryland were enough for this California Native.

Larry
AMEN-To what David B. just wrote! I ran my small business for 36+ years & finally got tired of all the BS. Early last year I closed down,(before the big crash,thankfully), sold my building,gave my employees several months of notice so it wouldn't be a suprise to them, & told them I was going to go get a REAL job where I could actually have some vacation time, sick time, unpaid leave, no more 24/7 worries, etc.,etc. Just applied for Social Security several months ago (best get what you can while it's still available)- 'ya, I'm older than most of you guys here. Now I'm thinking a part time job is an even better idea than full time. I'm looking forward to enjoying myself for a change!
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I bail my employees out of divorces, breakups, legal problems and they depend on me to help their families out with whatever. I do this to keep them happy and productive. That's what an employer does.

Their only worry is that if the stress kills me, who will take care of them?


Can I come work for you too, David? Wink

But seriously, I've been on both ends of this equation, and now as an employer I try to give my employees what I wanted when I was in their shoes. Respect, and the tools and opportunities they need to have an impact in their jobs. I want them to feel productive and to know they always have a say in their own job and a stake in the outcome of the company. That's all I ever wanted as an employee, unfortunately I've had too many bosses that didn't understand and were terrible managers. Ultimately a part of why I started my own company.

But if I received a letter from my boss like on page 1 of this thread, I would laugh in his face. Respect is earned.
Will,

You hit it on the head Bro !!! Not me .. I dont mix business with pleasure ... maybe the construction industry is different .. I agree you dont have to talk down to employees .. but you cannot be too nice .. you will surely get taken advantage of. I have been there done that and it dont work.

I have caught employees doing every thing from side jobs with co vehicles on co time, to dialing 900 numbers, stealing tools & materials, abusing credit cards, punching other peoples time cards, leaving early, hour coffe breaks, taking money on the side etc.

Fired all 60 of them, cleaned house restructured and now I do 1/2 the volume and tripled the profits .. I have the same 20 employees for the past 7 years .. and now I can take care of the good, valuable, loyal hardworking poeple who now work for me. But it 15 years to get it this way.

Ron

David ..god bless you ... if it works stay with it .. but your generousity is one in a million. Why because there some things you cannot change ..its human nature.

Ron
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Originally posted by David B:
They have lots of stuff that I don't have - timeshares, country homes, hobbies and friends. And best of all they get four weeks off every year to enjoy it ... I'm on pretty much 24/7 and live in a pressure cooker of my own design ... Their only worry is that if the stress kills me, who will take care of them?


David,

If you need help relaxing, maybe its time to retire and relocate to Ventura. We can soak in the hot tub with a bottle of cab every night, look up at the stars in the clear sky. I'll keep the steaks on the BBQ too. The temp was in the high 70's today (farenheit). Think of all the money you'd save on your heating bill. You can drive your Pantera throughout the year. The Pacific Ocean. Bikinis. Palm trees. Beautiful women of all ages on every corner.

We can build our Ventura Pantera Posse. My friend Doug & his wife Julie can come over & join us; George Walker is in Ventura too. Eventually I'm going to convince Coz & Elaine to move out here too.

You once told me southern Californians reminded you of the French. So a move to Ventura from Montreal shouldn't be that much of a culture shock, eh?

And the biggest benefit, you'll get to tease your Canadian buddies with igloo jokes!
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Why not? They have lots of stuff that I don't have - timeshares, country homes, hobbies and friends. And best of all they get four weeks off every year to enjoy it!

They take extra unpaid holidays whenever they want and work a daily schedule that fits their family life and their activities - not mine.

I have no problem showing them the fruits of my labors. I'm in the office before them and still there while they're on their 4th beer at home. I'm on pretty much 24/7 and live in a pressure cooker of my own design. They know it and I'm sure that none of them want to trade places with me.

I bail my employees out of divorces, breakups, legal problems and they depend on me to help their families out with whatever. I do this to keep them happy and productive. That's what an employer does.

Their only worry is that if the stress kills me, who will take care of them?>>>>>>

Dave, white collar employees obviously have a different mentality than blue collar workers.
More than a couple of my customers made a comment to my partner after Pocono about how it must be nice for me to be racing my "Ferrari" around in the states. My partner asked me not to mention my "Ferrari" around employees and customers.
Years ago, my ex-partner had a 10 yr old 5- series BMW. It was a nice car with 100k miles and M5 rims. It's value was approx. $12k at the time (about a third of what a service vehicle cost).I had many customers make comments to me about how business must be good because my partner had a BMW.
NONE of my contractor friends drive their nice cars to work.
It wasn't too long ago that I was an employee. In fact, I still put on a work-pouch most days and hear the comments from employees about their employers. 1 in 10 comments are positive.
Will
I don't mind showing 'fruits of my labor' but probably subconsciously do it with some reserve. I drive whatever I own to work when its running (!) or the weather permits. None of them hack at me for those. They know I'm addicted!

I don't have a lifestyle approaching lavish or would make any of them uneasy (I don't think) for anything that might be called 'flaunting'.

We have SEVERAL company-wide lunches during the year, where all kinds of stuff comes up: children, recreation, schools, et cetera and all seem very comfortable with each other.

The ONE time we had a group lunch at a private club (I thought they'd think it was a nice luxury) they were clearly uneasy. We never went back. So if I'm 'reserved', that's what I mean.

I've mentioned the 'boss' letter to a few boss/owner friends, and most - like on this board - agree with the theme, not the delivery.
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