Motor Mount Questions

Brent do a quick search....

See this:
Motor Mounts Answer

Steve

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Originally posted by T.Solo:
Brent do a quick search....

See this:
Motor Mounts Answer

Steve

Thanks, that solves one question, still need info on the triangles, are they supposed to be there or are they someones shim?

Not sure what you mean by triangles. The cast bits? Does this help you?

Mark

See this:

Jacking pads

Is that what you're talking about?

Steve

Thanks for the input, no I'll shoot a pic and post kinda odd they look like they fit under the frame mount, not sure why. The frame has the indentations from the washers the triangle look to be spacers but I don't know why, I only took the engine out my uncle pulled the rest, and it's been ten years so no one recalls. P.S they are polished aluminum way I don't know, the un polished marks look to match the mount,

the bolt holes match.
The jack pad I could see, but aluminum?

Those plates should go under the motor mounts, between the top of the frame and the bottom of the motor mount. I'll try to post a pic later.

John

I do not have the motor mount spacers depicted in your post. Attempting to attach a picture from the original Ford Pantera part's manual which indicates NO spacers.

Only the earliest cars had those. Mine has them too. I think they were added the raise the motor, because there were problems with access to the no 4 and 8 sparkplugs. Later the frame was changed and the motor raised.

Thus, on early frames the motor sits lower without the plates. I have mine mounted on the outside (lower) side of the frame, and use them as jacking points. Consequently my motor sits lower.

Contnuation of my previous post since I had success with the attachment appearing! Now to the question at hand. Curious regarding the spacers.
Were the spacers between the motor mounts and subframe or were they under the subframe as additional reinforcement. Was there a clearance problem under the engine? What does it do to the angle of the engine/transaxle if mounted between subframe and motor mounts? Don't want to "jump into" your post, but anxious to understand since mine does not have spacers.

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Originally posted by JAG13CAT:
Contnuation of my previous post since I had success with the attachment appearing! Now to the question at hand. Curious regarding the spacers.
Were the spacers between the motor mounts and subframe or were they under the subframe as additional reinforcement. Was there a clearance problem under the engine? What does it do to the angle of the engine/transaxle if mounted
between subframe and motor mounts? Don't want to "jump into" your post, but anxious to understand since mine does not have spacers.

SO should I put them in or out? that is the question....


Looks like they went in between the mount

Possibly when installing the engine/transaxle have the spacers between the mounts and sub frame; if you see an obstruction or dislike, lift the engine while still in the sling and pull them out.
As previously mentioned, mine has no spacers and I was unaware any existed until I read the post of one having spacers.

Neither has mine. And I have never heard of those before.

If you're considering an aftermarket intake manifold & a Holley, you do NOT want to raise the engine at all. Holley carb float-vents on most replacement intakes sit very close to the stock engine screen as it is. Levelness of the engine from your spacers- or not- is easily corrected with Holley float height settings.

The offset holes for the upper mounts will only fit one way. Reversing them shifts the engine backward by about 3/4". This is an advantage if you plan on installing a big-cap distributor. As-stock, there's not enough clearance between firewall and big caps which leads to contact and rotor breakage. But it does then force you to also redo the ZF mount(s) in back.

FWIW, I went the other way and sectioned our lower motormounts, removing 1" from the engine height so my Holley & hi-rise intake would fit under the screen.

Thanks for the help guys, I think ill keep them out as I am doing 351W swap, I can keep them in a box with the 351C.

Forgot you are running a Windsor, then looked back at your build posts and looked again at your engine. I think you may need all the space you can get. I think the Windsor is a couple of inches taller than the Cleveland, and with the distributor you're using, space may be a premium.

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Originally posted by JAG13CAT:
Forgot you are running a Windsor, then looked back at your build posts and looked again at your engine. I think you may need all the space you can get. I think the Windsor is a couple of inches taller than the Cleveland, and with the distributor you're using, space may be a premium.

Yes your right,

I have a windsor with a MSD wide-cap distributor in my car. With the mounts plates removed I have no clearence issues