Hi everybody,
I just joined and was hoping for opinions or knowledge concerning ths car:
http://www.longbeachcustoms.co...972-detomaso-pantera
I'm looking for a pre-L that's pristine.
Thanks in advance,
Skipp
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The ProvaMo Registry shows this restored car was entered into the registry on 7-17-2012, for sale at Long Beach Customs for $72,500.
That is top dollar for sure, but you would have at least that much into one if you built it yourself.
If you want it, better snag it quick because you have just published it on an international forum that currently has 60 guests lurking ...
That is top dollar for sure, but you would have at least that much into one if you built it yourself.
If you want it, better snag it quick because you have just published it on an international forum that currently has 60 guests lurking ...
Its a nice car, the paint & interior appear nice; but its not 100% original nor is it a complete restoration.
I browsed the pictures quickly & saw the non-original exhaust, speakers cut into the door panels, the engine compartment coating has been removed from the wheel houses. The suspension, brakes, clutch don't appear to have been rebuilt, stock shocks appear untouched. There are a lot of rubber parts that I suspect are very old. There are parts of the car that have not been refurbished, they will not operate in showroom condition.
If you want a concours show car, you want a Pantera as close as possible to factory original. Whatever parts aren't factory original should be easy to return to originality. For $72,000 a Pantera should be 100% showroom original and everything should operate like the car was showroom new. This car doesn't fit that description.
If you want a driver, you want a Pantera that is not necessarily factory original, in fact it should be equipped with a few key upgrades. But to ask top dollar for a driver it should be thoroughly refurbished. $62,000 would be top dollar for a thoroughly refurbished "driver" with the good upgrades. This car doesn't fit that description either.
-G
I browsed the pictures quickly & saw the non-original exhaust, speakers cut into the door panels, the engine compartment coating has been removed from the wheel houses. The suspension, brakes, clutch don't appear to have been rebuilt, stock shocks appear untouched. There are a lot of rubber parts that I suspect are very old. There are parts of the car that have not been refurbished, they will not operate in showroom condition.
If you want a concours show car, you want a Pantera as close as possible to factory original. Whatever parts aren't factory original should be easy to return to originality. For $72,000 a Pantera should be 100% showroom original and everything should operate like the car was showroom new. This car doesn't fit that description.
If you want a driver, you want a Pantera that is not necessarily factory original, in fact it should be equipped with a few key upgrades. But to ask top dollar for a driver it should be thoroughly refurbished. $62,000 would be top dollar for a thoroughly refurbished "driver" with the good upgrades. This car doesn't fit that description either.
-G
Hi Skippr1999
George is 100% correct. For that kind of money this car should be as near to 100% original as possible.
To add perspective (now come the shameless promotion) I will be offering this 73 L with 40K miles, very clean local show worthy driver with zero miles on newly rebuilt engine. Tires so new they still have the stickers still on them. Car will be listed here and in Hemmings in about 3 weeks for $53,000 and it is a whole lot closer to N.C. You could come and check it out in person.
http://s1099.photobucket.com/u...205176?sort=3&page=1
George is 100% correct. For that kind of money this car should be as near to 100% original as possible.
To add perspective (now come the shameless promotion) I will be offering this 73 L with 40K miles, very clean local show worthy driver with zero miles on newly rebuilt engine. Tires so new they still have the stickers still on them. Car will be listed here and in Hemmings in about 3 weeks for $53,000 and it is a whole lot closer to N.C. You could come and check it out in person.
http://s1099.photobucket.com/u...205176?sort=3&page=1
to add to Georges list, the front lid should not be black on the bottom side, the master clutch cylinder is aftermarket, the mufflers are way off center, not aligned in the body openings,the black paint between the mufflers is not quite high enough, the screws holding on the VIN tag in the door jamb really shows the quality!
If anyone is interested, my 72 is nicer than this one and has more upgrades. Id be willing to part with it for $53,500.
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It's a shame they mounted those mufflers upside-down. Really detracts from the appearance of the car.
Guys,
Thanks very much for your replies and input. Aside from the price, what specifically would you need to do to this car to make it "correct"?
As I said, I'm not talking Pebble Beach, but I do value authenticity. Also, what do you guys think this car is worth?
Thanks again,
Skipp
Thanks very much for your replies and input. Aside from the price, what specifically would you need to do to this car to make it "correct"?
As I said, I'm not talking Pebble Beach, but I do value authenticity. Also, what do you guys think this car is worth?
Thanks again,
Skipp
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