not mine, no accidents or rust, fails to mention fire!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/5148659194.html
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have to assume its repaired for the price he is asking but who knows.
Yumm
Car-b-que in my favorite flavor
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The first picture's not from the Craigslist ad.
I wonder if he would tell you about the fire... He sure didn't say a thing about it in the ad.
PROVAMO is a wonderful thing.
Rocky
I wonder if he would tell you about the fire... He sure didn't say a thing about it in the ad.
PROVAMO is a wonderful thing.
Rocky
I seem to recall that car was either discussed or listed for sale here (and the fire was mentioned then)
found it
http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/...562/m/7301075056/p/1
found it
http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/...562/m/7301075056/p/1
He said he didn't like modded cars yet I see a wing on the trunk lid. Hmmmm
He also says its light blue. Wish he had listed the full VIN.
The full VIN is in the title of the thread. It's 7248. THPNPS07248
Follow Joe's link and you can see what the car looked like before the fire.
Read the Craigslist advertisement and you can match the License plate data that the current seller provides (JRSBUZZ) to the pictures in PROVAMO.
Actually - you don't even have to go to PROVAMO to do that - just look at the license plate in the picture above, and match it to the ad.
There's no doubt in my mind - it's the same car getting repaired, repainted and resold.
Rocky
Did the current seller do a good job? Hard to say without looking at the car. Mad Dog's car came back to life from a less severe blaze.
Is it fair for the seller to not mention the fire in the ad? Probably, AS LONG AS HE TELLS YOU ABOUT IT when you call him.
Could you imagine buying this one, and then finding out it burned after the fact? I would be sad. I guess it's all good if the seller is up front about it.
Follow Joe's link and you can see what the car looked like before the fire.
Read the Craigslist advertisement and you can match the License plate data that the current seller provides (JRSBUZZ) to the pictures in PROVAMO.
Actually - you don't even have to go to PROVAMO to do that - just look at the license plate in the picture above, and match it to the ad.
There's no doubt in my mind - it's the same car getting repaired, repainted and resold.
Rocky
Did the current seller do a good job? Hard to say without looking at the car. Mad Dog's car came back to life from a less severe blaze.
Is it fair for the seller to not mention the fire in the ad? Probably, AS LONG AS HE TELLS YOU ABOUT IT when you call him.
Could you imagine buying this one, and then finding out it burned after the fact? I would be sad. I guess it's all good if the seller is up front about it.
I like the quote :
" When I bought the vehicle it was mainly original with one repaint in a sparkling red, copying the Hall Pantera.
I took the car apart and painted it back to its original color light blue (I have Pantera lettering for sides but are not installed yet).
It is a RUST AND ACCIDENT FREE CALIFORNIA vehicle. PERFECT DOOR GAPS and opening/closing of doors. Again rust and accident free true COLLECTOR CAR "
Wouldn't a fire be considered an accident? The mainly original paint must be the paint that wasn't burned off.
" When I bought the vehicle it was mainly original with one repaint in a sparkling red, copying the Hall Pantera.
I took the car apart and painted it back to its original color light blue (I have Pantera lettering for sides but are not installed yet).
It is a RUST AND ACCIDENT FREE CALIFORNIA vehicle. PERFECT DOOR GAPS and opening/closing of doors. Again rust and accident free true COLLECTOR CAR "
Wouldn't a fire be considered an accident? The mainly original paint must be the paint that wasn't burned off.
Having bought a car where MUCH vital information as omitted, or not disclosed, and information and parts on the car were not what were in the ad, I can say from personal experience that if that car sold without the buyer's knowing of the fire would be devastating.
The fire should be the FIRST thing any new buyer would need to know about this car, so they'd have a chance to have it properly inspected.
The fire should be the FIRST thing any new buyer would need to know about this car, so they'd have a chance to have it properly inspected.
quote:Originally posted by Rocky:
The full VIN is in the title of the thread. It's 7248. THPNPS07248
Follow Joe's link and you can see what the car looked like before the fire.
Read the Craigslist advertisement and you can match the License plate data that the current seller provides (JRSBUZZ) to the pictures in PROVAMO.
Actually - you don't even have to go to PROVAMO to do that - just look at the license plate in the picture above, and match it to the ad.
There's no doubt in my mind - it's the same car getting repaired, repainted and resold.
Rocky
Did the current seller do a good job? Hard to say without looking at the car. Mad Dog's car came back to life from a less severe blaze.
Is it fair for the seller to not mention the fire in the ad? Probably, AS LONG AS HE TELLS YOU ABOUT IT when you call him.
Could you imagine buying this one, and then finding out it burned after the fact? I would be sad. I guess it's all good if the seller is up front about it.
I wonder just how the fire would affect the metal. Mad Max's car had roll bars and other mods to stiffen it up, so if the metal of the car itself, were, say to be have been quenched, and made super brittle, it probably wouldn't matter because the car won't ever flex with all the stiffening mods done to it.
THIS car, may have gone through a similar heat/quench/metal hardening treatment, which in the future might make it behave in unsuspected ways later on, possibly?
THIS car, may have gone through a similar heat/quench/metal hardening treatment, which in the future might make it behave in unsuspected ways later on, possibly?
quote:Originally posted by Rocky:
The full VIN is in the title of the thread. It's 7248. THPNPS07248
Follow Joe's link and you can see what the car looked like before the fire.
Read the Craigslist advertisement and you can match the License plate data that the current seller provides (JRSBUZZ) to the pictures in PROVAMO.
Actually - you don't even have to go to PROVAMO to do that - just look at the license plate in the picture above, and match it to the ad.
There's no doubt in my mind - it's the same car getting repaired, repainted and resold.
Rocky
Did the current seller do a good job? Hard to say without looking at the car. Mad Dog's car came back to life from a less severe blaze.
Is it fair for the seller to not mention the fire in the ad? Probably, AS LONG AS HE TELLS YOU ABOUT IT when you call him.
Could you imagine buying this one, and then finding out it burned after the fact? I would be sad. I guess it's all good if the seller is up front about it.
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Buck:
Wouldn't a fire be considered an accident?
Well, yes. Unless it wasn't (an accident). (!!) Some fires actually pay quite handsomely.
(Mind you, I have no knowledge of the car fire in question. Just answering Uncle Buck's comment...)
As the original poster observed, Caveat Emptor applies, sometimes more than others.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mike the snake:
I wonder just how the fire would affect the metal. Mad Max's car had roll bars and other mods to stiffen it up, so if the metal of the car itself, were, say to be have been quenched, and made super brittle, it probably wouldn't matter because the car won't ever flex with all the stiffening mods done to it.
THIS car, may have gone through a similar heat/quench/metal hardening treatment, which in the future might make it behave in unsuspected ways later on, possibly?[QUOTE]
The car is made of mild steel which lacks the carbon content to become "brittle" no matter the quench. The main problem will be warping from heat and the introduction of oxygen to the heated areas which causes rust.
I wonder just how the fire would affect the metal. Mad Max's car had roll bars and other mods to stiffen it up, so if the metal of the car itself, were, say to be have been quenched, and made super brittle, it probably wouldn't matter because the car won't ever flex with all the stiffening mods done to it.
THIS car, may have gone through a similar heat/quench/metal hardening treatment, which in the future might make it behave in unsuspected ways later on, possibly?[QUOTE]
The car is made of mild steel which lacks the carbon content to become "brittle" no matter the quench. The main problem will be warping from heat and the introduction of oxygen to the heated areas which causes rust.
I don't think you can in any way compare the cars fire to Mad Dawg's fire. If you would like to see how severely Dawg's was burned go to the following link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyqDIh2KIw
Mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyqDIh2KIw
Mark
quote:Originally posted by PanteraWanabe:...
The car is made of mild steel which lacks the carbon content to become "brittle" no matter the quench. The main problem will be warping from heat and the introduction of oxygen to the heated areas which causes rust.
Agree,
the concern I would think is whether or not the Pantera's steel was cold or hot rolled prior to forming. with the cold roll being worked harden to give it more stiffness/spring that would be removed/annealed with the fire
"Rust free"? Are not those rust bubbles on the bottom of the rocker panel under the seat in one picture?