Pantera #9103 - GT5? Advice sought

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Originally posted by deeb:
... Thirty cars a year? Peter H, is that about right? ...

Assuming there were 426 Embo chassis cars produced between 1978 and 1990 (I'm not counting the Maggiora or 90 Si Panteras here), then that works out to a rough average of 33 cars per year.

cowboy. Cyber bullets are not required. The flares are Glass. The BBS wheels were on the car. Why that offset. I do not know. The original documents on the car were lost when the car was imported and going through EPA. The previous owner never got them back. A letter was written to EPA in 92 and they said they did not have the records. I suppose 18 years ago it was no big deal. As to why it took 10 years to make it to the States, no one knows. As I stated earlier it is what it is. David

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I discussed this car with Mike Drew and he believes these flares are "stock". The curves differ from the aftermarket versions.

Also the factory took stock-bodied cars and then cut them and installed the flares. If one had the opportunity to look under the fenders (and under the coating) you should see a seam.

Still not so sure every Factory GP4 I've seen photo's of had flares similar to the reproduction ones. I'm more inclined to think they are a 'one off' aftermarket. Man I wish there werre more records available, sure save a lot of discussion and opinion here.

DT never 'blended' flares liek the car in this example, always riveted on, both GP4 (exposed rivets) and GT5 (hidden rivets) are this way starting with a stock body coach and cutting the fender wheel arch out.

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Originally posted by Joules5:

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I discussed this car with Mike Drew and he believes these flares are "stock". The curves differ from the aftermarket versions.

DT never 'blended' flares liek the car in this example, always riveted on, both GP4 (exposed rivets) and GT5 (hidden rivets) are this way starting with a stock body coach and cutting the fender wheel arch out.

I wouldn't say "never" at anything when it comes to DT. The flares --seen above-- on 9139 sure look like 'stock blended' flares. Anything and everything was possible during the later (cash crunch) years. Combined with the lack of factory records for the Ford era cars, it's no wonder the Pantera is looked at as a lovable mongrel.

Nice looking car Rocs.. Good luck with the sale.

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I wouldn't say "never" at anything when it comes to DT. The flares --seen above-- on 9139 sure look like 'stock blended' flares.

You are absolutely correct, just shows I have a lot to learn still. In fact I feel somewhat stupid and humbled as George kindly pointed out to me in a PM that my GT5 being one of the very early ones has 'factory' blended flares. I always just assumed that was a modification by a previous owner.

Thanks George, once again you have demonstrated your rightful status as 'Master and Guru of all things Pantera'

There are no "Gurus" when it comes to Later "Pantera obscure". There are only those who can say, I have never seen that before, therefore it could not exist... The world of Pantera is not flat and will never be. Perhaps one of the most alluring or enduring traits about the marque. As someone earlier said "a lovable mongrel" I drove her this morning and it was wonderfull. If I sell her, I shall probably regret it. My opinion. David