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Push 1267,
Looks like the same calipers as run on the front of this Gr 5 Pantera:
On the Gr 5 car "LOCKHEED" and "ap" are cast into the 8 pot caliper.
I believe these may have also been used on at least some of the factory Group 4 race cars.
Probably a very rare and valuable part!
Dave
Looks like the same calipers as run on the front of this Gr 5 Pantera:
On the Gr 5 car "LOCKHEED" and "ap" are cast into the 8 pot caliper.
I believe these may have also been used on at least some of the factory Group 4 race cars.
Probably a very rare and valuable part!
Dave
Here is a pic of the caliper.
As you can see, not exactly the same.
Maybe the calipers you found are a more current version?
As you can see, not exactly the same.
Maybe the calipers you found are a more current version?
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Davek - you hit the nail. Thanks for the Pictures of the Group 5 Lockheed brakes - I've never seen real ones.
Panteras were homologated to use these in apr 1975.
These are not the original calipers but repro's machined from billet aluminum rather than cast like the originals. They were made with permission from AP, which also supplied the drawings used.
They are made for the two race panteras build by Aquila Racing i Denmark. I meet with the owner of the company, Dan Suenson, yesterday to hear about his experiences with the panteras. I was blown away with the things they did to those cars. The brakes are just an example. Apparently, those two panteras were blowing away everything in their class on the historic scene at the time.
Here's one of the cars for sale, I think they are in the 150 k euro range, but that is, according to Dan, VERY CHEAP compared to the money and Development that has been put into Building them.
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_...mode=master&maID=211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjehWztZTE
Panteras were homologated to use these in apr 1975.
These are not the original calipers but repro's machined from billet aluminum rather than cast like the originals. They were made with permission from AP, which also supplied the drawings used.
They are made for the two race panteras build by Aquila Racing i Denmark. I meet with the owner of the company, Dan Suenson, yesterday to hear about his experiences with the panteras. I was blown away with the things they did to those cars. The brakes are just an example. Apparently, those two panteras were blowing away everything in their class on the historic scene at the time.
Here's one of the cars for sale, I think they are in the 150 k euro range, but that is, according to Dan, VERY CHEAP compared to the money and Development that has been put into Building them.
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_...mode=master&maID=211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjehWztZTE
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Wow - those are special...
They have so much history in them that you can see the ghost of Alejandro DeTomaso shining out of the carbon fiber of the hood of the car...
Very cool.
They have so much history in them that you can see the ghost of Alejandro DeTomaso shining out of the carbon fiber of the hood of the car...
Very cool.
Woow, that looks to be some serious stuff indeed!
I do wonder though how much benefit you get from the about doubled brake pad area (as per the Gr brake detail list Anders provided once).
After all, I can't imagine these to be twice as powerful as for instance the Girling (copies).
But, if I were able to afford these, I'd consider them for sure ;-)
For now though, I'll keep on going the Girling way ;-)
I do wonder though how much benefit you get from the about doubled brake pad area (as per the Gr brake detail list Anders provided once).
After all, I can't imagine these to be twice as powerful as for instance the Girling (copies).
But, if I were able to afford these, I'd consider them for sure ;-)
For now though, I'll keep on going the Girling way ;-)
Push 1267,
There have been several articles in past PI magazines on the Panteras built by Dan Suenson - who, based on the rest of his business at Aquila, obviously knows how to build mid-engine V8 powered race cars!
PI issue #118 has an interview with the drivers of the (3) Group 4 Panteras built by Dan including some interesting pictures and details of the Lockheed AP brakes. Great to see owners and builders in Europe going to such amazing efforts to re-create these cars to comply with FIA regs for historic racing.
It's obviously a huge expense to "re-create" the original brakes. Although I suspect, in some ways, the cars are built a bit beyond what was done back in the 70's.
BTW, based on your user-name, you might be interested in that same PI issue as it includes a nice article on an early push-button car here in the U.S.
Dave
There have been several articles in past PI magazines on the Panteras built by Dan Suenson - who, based on the rest of his business at Aquila, obviously knows how to build mid-engine V8 powered race cars!
PI issue #118 has an interview with the drivers of the (3) Group 4 Panteras built by Dan including some interesting pictures and details of the Lockheed AP brakes. Great to see owners and builders in Europe going to such amazing efforts to re-create these cars to comply with FIA regs for historic racing.
It's obviously a huge expense to "re-create" the original brakes. Although I suspect, in some ways, the cars are built a bit beyond what was done back in the 70's.
BTW, based on your user-name, you might be interested in that same PI issue as it includes a nice article on an early push-button car here in the U.S.
Dave