Ron's photos show the type of louvers I have on my car. They are not the Mindtrain louvers.

The Mindtrain louvers don't have the exposed mounting rails and fasteners above the rim of the hood. I've never seen a set of Mindtrains in person, and don't know for sure how they mount, but the mounts are invisible in photos and they look much more like a high end product. I would expect the Mindtrain louvers to sell for two or three times the price of the louvers shown.

I mounted mine with some flat top sleeve nuts I got at Home Depot. They are used in those self assembled furniture kits you buy. They have them in their odd hardware drawers.

My louvers rattled. The rattle came from where each louver passes through the center brace. I took them back off and put a small bead of clear latex caulk on each side of the brace where the louver passes through on the underside where it would not show. No more rattles! Silicone might be more durable, but it is a bear to clean up if you ever re-paint the louver.

I thought I would regret not waiting for a set of Mindtrain louvers, but the truth is, I really don't mind the look of these at all now.

I always loved the look of the louvers on the Lamborgini Mura and the Boss 302.

There is NO loss of rear view whatsoever. So don't let that concern you.

All and all I'm happy with mine.

Mooso
I think mine must be the Mindtrain version?
It mounts with 4 bolts from underneath and the center rail rests on the top surface of the decklid.
They don't rattle, but they do vibrate visibly, no noise.
The center rail has a rubber cover(split fuel line) to keep from rubbing the deck paint.
Downside is there is no easy way to clean the deck surface with them mounted, they have to be removed.

fourdoorbronco, I have that same spoiler for my car. I just haven't gotten it painted and installed yet. Your car is the reason I started looking for louvers! I had seen some photos you posted in the past and I like the look of the spoiler, louver combination. Great looking car!!
Thanks 'dreamin,
It's amazing how much the louvers change the look of the car's profile.
I realy like the minimalist look of the Pantera's stock form dropping down from the upper roofline to the rear deck and revealing the motor lurking back there.

I also like the louvers because then you can just barely glimps the Cobra le mans valve covers and air cleaner lid.
5 minutes with a wrench and you can have either. Big Grin
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Downside is there is no easy way to clean the deck surface with them mounted, they have to be removed.


The original fasteners allowed them to swivle on the upper mount. From the Mind-Train Window Louvers sale brochure:

"Our louvers are secured to the deck lid at four points utilizing winghead Camloc fasteners. (Camloc fasteners are used in the aircraft industry and are similar to Dzus fasteners.) The two forward fasteners attach to the side struts and double as in-line pivot points. The remaining two hold the rear down and are quickly unlocked to allow tilting of the louvers for easy cleaning of the deck lid. A rubber-footed support rod is provided to eliminate the need for a buddy to hold up the louvers during cleaning."
Good info cat', do you have a brochure?
Any chance you could scan it?
I think I have a Mindtrain catalog, I'll have to look through it.
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Originally posted by cat7195:
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Downside is there is no easy way to clean the deck surface with them mounted, they have to be removed.


The original fasteners allowed them to swivle on the upper mount. From the Mind-Train Window Louvers sale brochure:

"Our louvers are secured to the deck lid at four points utilizing winghead Camloc fasteners. (Camloc fasteners are used in the aircraft industry and are similar to Dzus fasteners.) The two forward fasteners attach to the side struts and double as in-line pivot points. The remaining two hold the rear down and are quickly unlocked to allow tilting of the louvers for easy cleaning of the deck lid. A rubber-footed support rod is provided to eliminate the need for a buddy to hold up the louvers during cleaning."
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Originally posted by Panteradreamin:
Anyone want to post up what a set of the Mind Train louvers are worth?


In Mind-Train's 1970's brochure the price is listed as $385. In their 1980 catalog, they list for $2000. I paid $400 for the louvers and $125 actual ground freight shipping cost. Very large box. 48 x 48 x 24. That was 3 1/2 years ago. They did need some minor repair.
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