Seeking tips for bringing Panteras purchased in Canada into the US

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I'm not sure if this will help at all but it's interesting, none the less. As far as I know, Ford (Lincoln Mercury) did not sell Pantera's in Canada. The vast majority of '71 to '74 Pantera's in Canada were imported from the US. Some may have come from Europe but that would be quite rare. After '74 was a different matter.

Hire a shipping company to move it.

Anyone that I know that has done it themselves has had a 4 hr+ bottle neck at the border.
Even old parts cars.

Thanks to all who provided the information. I guess as long as your purchase information is in order there is no reason to worry. My only concern would be the "import duty" from Canada even though it was originally purchased in the US gone to CA and again back to the US...
Lou

I would do that if it comes to it depending the location in Canada which might be driveable from NY.
Lou

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Originally posted by agustaboy:
Hire a shipping company to move it.

Anyone that I know that has done it themselves has had a 4 hr+ bottle neck at the border.
Even old parts cars.

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Originally posted by Basque1:
Thanks to all who provided the information. I guess as long as your purchase information is in order there is no reason to worry. My only concern would be the "import duty" from Canada even though it was originally purchased in the US gone to CA and again back to the US...
Lou

If you can show that it was previously sold (and taxes paid) in the US by way of an old Bill of sale,copy of title or ownership history, then no further importation duty should be assessed.

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I'm not sure if this will help at all but it's interesting, none the less. As far as I know, Ford (Lincoln Mercury) did not sell Pantera's in Canada. The vast majority of '71 to '74 Pantera's in Canada were imported from the US.

I would double check on that. I am uncertain that you could not get a 71-74 Pantera in Canada. Also in the 80's it was easier to get one North of the Border through guys like John Scotti than south of the border and they didn't have to worry about the emissions like the Amerisport cars. I am just speculating but, would think that the Pantera just like Shelby's and Boss Mustangs were available in Canada. With the number of them being in Canada I don't see them all being import cars, but could be wrong.

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I would double check on that. I am uncertain that you could not get a 71-74 Pantera in Canada. Also in the 80's it was easier to get one North of the Border through guys like John Scotti than south of the border and they didn't have to worry about the emissions like the Amerisport cars. I am just speculating but, would think that the Pantera just like Shelby's and Boss Mustangs were available in Canada. With the number of them being in Canada I don't see them all being import cars, but could be wrong.

There were Pantera's in Canadian Ford Dealer's showrooms but they didn't get there via Ford. Dealers in Canada, that felt a demand for Panteras, established relationships with Lincoln Mercury dealerships in the USA, to purchase their Pantera's through. They came into the country on MSO, so the Canadian customer was legitimately the first owner. I wonder how they handled warranty claims? My Pantera was one such car. It was purchased off of the showroom floor in 1973, from a Ford dealer in Alberta, but the dealer had bought it from Peyton LM in Los Angeles.

John Scotti, a car dealer in Montreal, imported a number of Panteras over the years. The earliest one I know of is a '74 Euro GTS, that Scotti imported directly from DeTomaso. It had fender flares and the US GTS only "GT" in its serial number. Scotti imported a dozen or so GT-5's as well. Some gray market GT-5's and GT5-S's, that were imported into the USA, entered via Canada. Apparently, it was easier to import a Canadian car than it was to import one directly from Europe.

That does make sense.
Lou

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Originally posted by Joules:

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Originally posted by Basque1:
Thanks to all who provided the information. I guess as long as your purchase informatiosen is in order there is no reason to worry. My only concern would be the "import duty" from Canada even though it was originally purchased in the US gone to CA and again back to the US...
Lou

If you can show that it was previously sold (and taxes paid) in the US by way of an old Bill of sale,copy of title or ownership history, then no further importation duty should be assessed.

Can't you just drive the car into the US with the current Canadian registration and do the transaction in the US?

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Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Can't you just drive the car into the US with the current Canadian registration and do the transaction in the US?

I believe that's only possible if you are the registered Canadian owner.

I have friends that own property in the US and have taken their Canadian cars down and decided to leave them there. No problem. But you can't just drive across the line with a bill of sale.

Doug M

There's no Canadian requirement, that a vehicle be exported from the USA, prior to its importation into Canada. That's a US Customs requirement. Some Canadian's skip that part of the importation process. If the Pantera in question was never exported from the USA and the seller still has the US title, you may be able to simply register the vehicle as you would any US vehicle. As Doug M. mentioned, the Canadian seller would have to be the one driving the car across the border and he/she could not mention the fact the car has been sold. If the seller in Canada wasn't the person who imported the car, I'm not sure how you'd find out whether or not the car was properly exported (from the USA) before being imported into Canada. If you asked US Customs, it might raise a red flag.

David, you raise a good point, when relocating to Canada last year the two cars that were shipped were exported and had the NV titles stamped such. We drove the Raptor and never actually exported it, but imported to Canada. Fortunately we kept all on NV plates and titles so US reentry was a breeze.

However, I think it would only be of value if the car retains it's US title as a Canadian title is likely going to need accompanying import/EPA paperwork at any US DMV for US title and registration.

Julian