Trade your Pantera for my Ferrari?

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I'm new to this forum,

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I have a very small (20 cars) collection

You're a lucky man. Most of us here would consider that to be a large collection.

Good luck on your search.

Larry

Sell the F355, buy a Pantera, this is way easier.

A Pantera against a F355, NEVER?

Sorry to say that, but if it would be a Testarossa, you may find someone. But for a F355... puuu. A pantera is a bad ass Ferrari and a F355 is a soft boiled Ferrari. Is kind of the opposit of a Pantera.

Just the portfolio of the F355 does not fit a Pantera owner.

Not a bad car either, but not the one a true Pantera owner would switch to.

Maybe you have something else in your collection more interesting.

Gilles 027:

While I appreciate you offering your opinion, it is pretty clear you have never driven a F355. "Soft-boiled" it is not, and it is lighter, quicker and more nimble than the Testarossa. No, it is not a Pantera. Yes, it is completely different. That doesn't mean either car is bad. They were just created to appeal to two very different markets. The best way I can describe the difference in the two cars is the Pantera is a broadax, while the F355 is a scalpel; the Pantera is an American muscle car in a beautiful Italian suit, while the Ferrari is the epitome of pure Italian form and function. The experience of driving the F355 is unlike that of any other car I have known. The scream of its F1-inspired flat-plane 8-cylinder engine at 8500 rpm will give you goose bumps, and carving out corners flatter than anything else on the road is sure to peg your fun meter. As you might gather, it is without question my favorite car, and that's not likely to change any time soon. However, that still doesn't change my desire to acquire the right Pantera, or diminish my appreciation of its attributes or the enjoyment I am certain it will provide. Thank God there is room in this world for more than one kind of car....."Viva la Differenza!"

Both cars have there own personalities & one will surely not be confused with the other.

This bit of unnecessary hyperbole & gross exaggeration could/should have been omitted from your comments...

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and carving out corners flatter than anything else on the road is sure to peg your fun meter

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Originally posted by gilles027:
Sell the F355, buy a Pantera, this is way easier.

A Pantera against a F355, NEVER?

Sorry to say that, but if it would be a Testarossa, you may find someone. But for a F355... puuu. A pantera is a bad ass Ferrari and a F355 is a soft boiled Ferrari. Is kind of the opposit of a Pantera.

Just the portfolio of the F355 does not fit a Pantera owner.

Not a bad car either, but not the one a true Pantera owner would switch to.

Maybe you have something else in your collection more interesting.

Your comments are certainly appreciated to represent the broad group we have on this board with one large common denominator: Pantera passion.

Yet in speaking for the seller (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) I didn't feel he thought they were the same or one goes "in place of the other". Yet he only meant to see if anyone would trade, just as I've traded guns for coins, realizing they're quite different.

Personally, I sold my Pantera outright, and there's nothing that would exactly fill those Campagnolos, but I could find equivalent joy in many other cars, perhaps an F355 even. So the seller was just offering options.

And btw, an F355 posted faster around Fiorano than the Testarossa, so not as soft as mentioned. (A 348 probably didn't fare that well, but I never followed those for many reasons.)

Anyway, thanks to the OP for offering an interesting car and hope you find a good home for it AND that you make a good home for your future Pantera.

A Hudson,

Thanks for your perspective of my post. As you correctly noted, I did not in any way mean to say they were the same car, quite the opposite in fact. That is one of my reasons for seeking a Pantera.....it fills a niche that is open in my collection of cars. My feelings about the Pantera is that it is a unique car with a history all its own; it is not a "bad-ass Ferrari". However, Ferraris are also unique cars with their own enthusiastic following. By the way, I am also an enthusiastic owner who believes in driving my cars, not just looking at them on display, which I sense may also be the case with most Pantera owners. I look forward to belonging to both groups some time soon.

If you believe in driving your cars, then please join other Pantera's at the Silver State Classic Challenge this Sept.. We need more company.

Team Pantera Racing

Mark

Where? I am assuming Nevada ("Silver State"). If I have my Pantera by then, I will certainly consider attending!

[Quote] By the way, I am also an enthusiastic owner who believes in driving my cars, not just looking at them on display, which I sense may be the case with most Pantera owners.[End of Quote]

I believe as a collective group, DeTomaso Pantera owners are MORE into driving than "Polishing & Posing"...

Don't believe your above quote helps you garner favour with Pantera owners.

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By the way, I am also an enthusiastic owner who believes in driving my cars, not just looking at them on display, which I sense may be the case with most Pantera owners. I look forward to belonging to both groups some time soon.

I am sure he means that Pantera owners like to drive their cars, as he does.....

That's how I read it, anyway....


Rocky

Speedunlimited, what is your actual name?

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Speedunlimited, what is your actual name?

Why do you ask, JTpantera?

Larry

SSCC starts in Ely, Nevada.
Entry info: http://www.sscc.us/entry_forms.aspx

Let the fun begin.

Mark

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Originally posted by speedunlimited:
[Quote] By the way, I am also an enthusiastic owner who believes in driving my cars, not just looking at them on display, which I sense may be the case with most Pantera owners.[End of Quote]

I believe as a collective group, DeTomaso Pantera owners are MORE into driving than "Polishing & Posing"...

Don't believe your above quote helps you garner favour with Pantera owners.

Just to clarify, I did mean that I assume most Pantera owners love to drive their cars, (sorry I didn't make that clear).....after all, what's not to love? Unfortunately, that's not always a choice available to some Ferrari owners due to the collector market value of many of the rarer Ferraris. A shame really, because the experience of driving a car like a Ferrari or Pantera is what owning them is all about, in my view.

Too rare and valuable to race?

It all comes down to the the size of one's balls, and wallet.

Larry

250TR at 2009 Monterey Historics

Or maybe this F399 at the 2004 Monterey historic is a more interesting visual?

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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Too rare and valuable to race?

It all comes down to the the size of one's balls, and wallet.

Larry

250TR at 2009 Monterey Historics

Hello Larry; You are such a TEASE!!!...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4gbEBC-FE

Notice the yellow car at 11 seconds of the video is missing a driver's front fender from an earlier crash.

Easily a BILLION DOLLARS PLUS worth of cars on that track!!!

I know there are exceptions to the rule, of course, but there are many Ferraris that are no longer driven. I'm not sure that I would take a chance on crashing a $32,000,000 car, which is what one Ferrari recently sold for. Still, driving your favorite car is the best.....

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Originally posted by tcbquattroporte:
I know there are exceptions to the rule, of course, but there are many Ferraris that are no longer driven. I'm not sure that I would take a chance on crashing a $32,000,000 car, which is what one Ferrari recently sold for. Still, driving your favorite car is the best.....

Ferraris get a wee bit MORE expensive than $32,000,000.00...

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/0...llion-monterey-2014/