05843 Restoration

Never hurts to have a new project

does your preservation approach include any notable new components, engine, work or ZF inspection?

or is this a basic inspect everything and if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it preservation approach ?

good luck

Larry

Hi Larry, sorry…. I should’ve been more clear, as preservation can have different meanings. My intention is… to strip it down to the chassis, and have it sandblasted (gently 😂). With the idea to stop any rust that exists. The key mission here… Kill the cancer. Based on other project priorities, I will then either tackle the metal work now and put it into epoxy primer/sealer… or go straight to epoxy/sealer.  

I pulled my zf in the car when I painted the engine bay. I allowed the clutch disc to get wet and it rusted to the flywheel. I tried breaking it loose by driving the car and when it DID break, it looked like a shreaded bird was inside the pressure plate. Please use caution and the finest media you can to Lightly strip with sand blasting. I have stripped hundreds of cars and I can reccomend NOT using any media on the exterior body panels. I prefer a chemical strip. As a body shop, I am allowed to buy BENCO B17, it still has the MEC in it that makes it work. I will strip undersides and door jambs with the fine media, just NOT the exterior panels. Those are some fine cars you built there!   Have fun, Bill

Nice to see you back, Rob.  I was wondering about you!

Why does it have a -1 ZF in it?

Rocky (a.k.a. Chuck)

Hey Rocky…!  Great to hear from ya.  Hope life’s been treating ya OK. 😊.   Glad to know someone noticed I was missing 🤣

I have no clue about the -1 box.  Was in there when I got it.   Would really prefer to find someone needing one for a proper restoration and swap with them, as I obviously need a -2 for mine. 🤷🏻‍♂️

So….not much to share tonight…got the drivetrain on stands and the chassis on the buck.  

Here you go Rob.

https://pantera.infopop.cc/top...10#21032744740178910

Steve

Peeerfect…..thx Steve.  I hadn’t yet seen that string.

Your old friend is still alive. I put around 500 miles on it last summer!

FYI, the slave mount bracket is also different on the Dash 1

Hey Rob!  Daaamn….that’s a sweet lookin ride!! 🤣

Thanks Rob! I’ve had to fix so many things on it and still have many more (radiator, hoses and fans are next) but have it at a point that I’m actually enjoying it now.

Nothing exciting to report ….. more disassembly.   Started at the tail lights and stripping my way forward.

It looks like good and sound chassis.  And a good project.  Enjoy.

@Rob Fridenberg posted:

Your old friend is still alive. I put around 500 miles on it last summer!

Wow. That is a beautiful car!

Ok….so….. what’s the shittiest job in a Pantera restoration?  In my opinion….. gettin the damn pedal assembly out!   I hate it every time🤣.  And every time… I say.. who the f@#k came up with this design and fastening concept!?!?  If still alive, should be whipped with a wet noodle…repeatedly🤣   Anyway…. Got the damn thing out🙄

I will gladly remove the pedal box for you if you will strip the engine bay and undercoating. Lol

Chunk the pad and cut the bottom RIGHT corner of the brake pedal off. It makes driving so much better getting off the gas and on the brake.

I like clipping the corner of the brake pad idea lastpushbutton. I might just give that to go.

I clipped my brake pedal as well. helped tons. I also got a piece of the coarse surface paper with a sticky back that is used on skateboards so the pedal surface was not slippery

@robborruso posted:

Ok….so….. what’s the shittiest job in a Pantera restoration?  In my opinion….. gettin the damn pedal assembly out! 

I'd say stripping the original tar-based undercoating from the engine compartment.  But then again, I've never removed the complete pedal assembly.

Anyway, you're my hero Rob!  You have amazing metalworking skills, a big garage, and make appreciable progress in a very short time!  I wish I were so proficient and efficient with my many projects!

Cutting the brake pedal was not my idea. It was shared here and It should be added to the Best 20 mods for under 20 dollars! 

Hey Garth…!  Been a while, hope all is well.  Appreciate the flowers!,   But… too kind…not sure I’m worthy 🤣 … there’s a bunch of fab guys here … I’m just another in the herd.  

I agree…scraping tar does suck.   No doubt!

So, got a bit distracted w disassembly yesterday thinkin about what to do regarding the trans.   Went out to the storage barn and dug a -2 that I had stashed out there years ago (full to lid w/ gear lube 😉) .  I’m thinkin I’ll go through this box and use, as it’s more appropriate and sell the -1.  So if you or anyone you know is needing a -1 for “that proper” build project, plz DM me.  

It’s sometimes fortunate to be a parts hoarder…. My wife says I need to go into a 12 step program… But I just tell her she doesn’t get it.  🤣.   Yesterday was one of those days. I was pretty certain I remember seeing a bell housing in the attic sometime ago.  Bingo!!   😎👍

Hi Rob,

I am interested into the Dash1 ,I send a PM .

Simon

Update after the weekend…..  chassis fully stripped.  
next; mount chassis in roller hoop for blasting, organize parts for storage…

Chassis looks pretty sound from here.

Any notable surprises uncovered?

Hi Larry, nothing too serious.  I always had a hunch it had been in a front end wreck...which was certainly confirmed.  Actually, seemingly with much more significant damage than I had anticipated.  Repair was done pretty well, but of course....will be done better ;-)

Still plugging away at hoop mounting….

should have it rolling this weekend….🤷🏼‍♂️

Nice work and nice parts collection! Looks like whoever did the first color change from blue to black actually did a fairly thorough job. Possibly the car was redone once after that front end collision. It's nice to see that the car was cared for at one time and will be getting the full treatment this time.

Hi Otis, thx….  
regarding the color change… fully agreed.   Much more thorough than I anticipated I’d find.   I fully agree, I would speculate it was done at the time of the accident. The dash substructure is even painted. I think the front clip had been replaced and the car had been stripped down to do the repair work.  They did a good job.

I rolled my Pantera today!!
and…I’m happy about it…🤣

ready for sandblasting…

puts new meaning to the phrase “rolling chassis”🤣🤣

Don’t let it roll down the hill!

Rocky