I think I wrote the last response as you were submitting yours.
Too high or low? I went stright thru the grill opening and there wasnt really anything to attach except the lower control arm holes then I need a second piont I drilled a hole in the cross member below the raditator and used a pice of threaded rod ??? it works fine but at some piont it has to comeout and the hole fixed.
Ron
Ron
Very cool project. Would have loved to have one of those rotisseries when I did my car. Man thats gotta make things so much easier.
I did get time to work on it today. Here is how it came out:
I put a lot of photos of the shell in this directory for those who want to see different corners and angles of a stripped shell:
http://www.rc-tech.net/cars/panttransam/1905/strip/
http://www.rc-tech.net/cars/panttransam/1905/strip/
The car is actually in pretty good shape. The weakest part is the front. The car apears to have been on a rotisory before. I know it had a major going through around 1985 but I know not by who. As I turned the car on it's side some sand type medea fell out so I suspect it has been through the blasters before. The only part untouched was the front. It seems as if what ever they did they never touched the radiator or the area around it. The front trunk has deffinantly had a brake fluid leak at some time.
If you look at some of under belly shots look how good of a job they did welding on the fender flairs.
If you look at some of under belly shots look how good of a job they did welding on the fender flairs.
I think you started with the wrong car this one is looking too easy.
I hope #1280 looks that good when its taken apart.
I hope #1280 looks that good when its taken apart.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Mensen:
I think you started with the wrong car this one is looking too easy.
I hope #1280 looks that good when its taken apart.
You know I can look at the under structure for hours. I think of things I can do to make a few things bettter but I can also see how a group of poeple who were building race cars in the late 60's made a production car. I can envision the jigs and the parts being made.
WHY ISN'T SOME ONE RE-PRODUCING THESE HERE NOW! We can certainly do what they did back then and we could do it better! There is nothing hard in the under structure of this car!
Comp2, everytime you post more pictures, I become more jealous! I wish that I had the time to do some of the things that you are doing. I love seeing the Pantera on the rotisserie. My biggest problem right now is time and space. I plan to add on to my garage which will give me the space. But time that is the tough one!
I put the car on it's side and measured the weight required to hold it there. After a few calculations I came up with the pivot point and adjusted my rotator. This is very close to the center (asuming the wight of my brackets). The car stays where ever I put it now:
Car is completely stripped and ready to go to media blasters.....When I find one!
Car is completely stripped and ready to go to media blasters.....When I find one!
Dropped off at the media blasters today!!!
Back from medea blasters a couple weeks ago but just getting to it. The soda get's off all the paint but a little soft on the rust. I am going over it inch by inch blasting the remainding rust and POR 15 the non-body areas. I will etch prime the body areas. This is 2 solid days work:
Gary
Gary
You sure make it look easy! Please keep the pictures coming!
Wow beautiful job it's really coming along well.I always check this post to see your progress since I want to do the exact same thing.I noticed that the car has steel fender flares could you send or post some pixs of them and how they were installed?It looks like soneone did a quality job on them.I guess that garage full of resto equipment will come in handy now Congrats Sam
Sure will sam. Do you have the fenders? The fenders are actually overlapping and spot welded. I have been playing around and I am going to cut the fender and align the metal and re-weld it. I have a ton of sheet metal work to do which I love. Here was a quick patch panel job I did with the MIG:
Gary
Gary
Hi Gary
No I do not have fender flares yet,but I am going to go with steel for sure.Are you going to weld the flares fully ? I suppose you will be .Very nice patch by the way .Nice to see a flush butt jointed weld show's that the car will be restored correctly. Keep the pixs coming I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested Sam
No I do not have fender flares yet,but I am going to go with steel for sure.Are you going to weld the flares fully ? I suppose you will be .Very nice patch by the way .Nice to see a flush butt jointed weld show's that the car will be restored correctly. Keep the pixs coming I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested Sam
Damn Gary, you do make it look too easy! NICE job, and please keep the pictures coming.
Mark 6808
Mark 6808
Thanks,
Sam yes I am going to stitch weld the entire seem flush. I am cutting about 8" at a time with the dremmel and relieving the fender till flush. It looks like it is going to work well. With the overlap there was a lot of filler to make it smooth. The guys that had it before me even filled the seems under the car and in the fender well. I wouldn't be surprised if I shed 50lbs just from filler.
I guess guys in a body shop can't make any money if they spend that kind of time on the body work but it would scare me buying a steel flair car knowing how much filler they actually used to make it all flow. They slapped metal patch panels all over the place and just sculpted the car out of filler. ALL that will be fixed!
Sam yes I am going to stitch weld the entire seem flush. I am cutting about 8" at a time with the dremmel and relieving the fender till flush. It looks like it is going to work well. With the overlap there was a lot of filler to make it smooth. The guys that had it before me even filled the seems under the car and in the fender well. I wouldn't be surprised if I shed 50lbs just from filler.
I guess guys in a body shop can't make any money if they spend that kind of time on the body work but it would scare me buying a steel flair car knowing how much filler they actually used to make it all flow. They slapped metal patch panels all over the place and just sculpted the car out of filler. ALL that will be fixed!
They slapped metal patch panels all over the place and just sculpted the car out of filler.quote:The guys that had it before me even filled the seems under the car and in the fender well. I wouldn't be surprised if I shed 50lbs just from filler.
Dennis Quella recommends welding those seams to strengthen the body.
Just like Coddington and the hot rod guys do.