Another one bites the dust...

That's the pickup's wheel next to my door.
Absolutely no skid marks before or after the impact.
The pickup was stopped by an earthen berm or it would have gone farther.

Makes me sick just seeing the pic. Can't imagine how you are feeling

Sorry to see that man,makes me feel sick ,that could’ve been a buggy right there.
Hope you have agreed value insurance policy

That is a real bummer. However, that car is repairable. Get her in the right hands.

Sorry to see that. Glad no one got hurt. Smart devices and driving just don't mix.

My wife wants me to fix it !
I know this is going to be a battle with both insurance companies.
I'll call Dennis Quella tomorrow and get some advice. He rebuilt my ZF years ago and has provided me with a lot of parts and good advice in the past. I'm sure he knows exactly how to move forward from here.
One side is still good !

That sucks! I'm sure I would have said more than just dumb ass. Glad you're OK. And yes, get it back on the road. It's a beautiful sample of our great cars.

Terrible News.

We lost two in Arizona to accidents this year.

I hope yours gets back on the road.

Not to take anything away from the other shops, but Kirk Evans reconstructed a beautiful red GT5-S that looked worse than yours. There is a thread on here about it somewhere...

Good Luck -

Rocky

Moose,

That’s really heartbreaking news. Thankful that you were not in the car at the time. Life is short. If this happened to me, I’d consider getting a replacement car now rather than spending the 2 years rebuilding it. Good luck with your decision.

glad you're OK Michael.

Terrible news about the car, I'm confident you'll find your path through the mess. There's lots of good will behind you from amongst the members here.

-G

As much as it pains me to see this, at least it wasn’t a kid on a bike.

I would talk to Kirk. I sae the pics from the gt5s rebuild. It would be in good hands there

As others have said, at least no one was hurt, but it is heartbreaking to see nevertheless. We all take so much pride in our beautiful cars, just to have a careless driver wipe years of work out in a split second. Hopefully you'll get complete cooperation from your insurance company, and it will be whole again. It would be a shame to not have her ride again.

Agree with John, it is repairable.

You may recall my Monterey accident in August of 2015. At the time, some said it was beyond repair. Working with my repair shop, we presented an estimate to State Farm that was... eventually... accepted. No salvage title.

Embarrassingly, this was my second accident with 2511. So, I certainly have some useful been there-done that experience you may find of value.

Sending you a PM with contact info should you wish to talk.

Larry

Larry, if I remember right, I painted my car the same color as yours. You were kind enough to share it with me several years ago.

Tajon, before we were done several neighbor kids and their parents kept us company while we were waiting for the tow truck. We made good use of the time by talking to them about cross walks and bike lanes and how it is not good enough to be in the "right". You always have to use caution and look out for yourself. That woman would have killed anyone in that bike lane. As I said before...absolutely no evidence of using the brakes before or after the impact.

I sincerely defned, but it's been a long time since the braking left traces only in the televised crime series. The ABS systems prevent the wheels from blurring and there are no more skid marks on the tarmac.

Rene,

The truck was a 2017, so you have a good point. So ABS ensures that there is no evidence of braking in a panic stop?

looking at this as the driver, the maximum property damage policy my agent could sell is $100,000. So I added a million $ umberla

I would think ABS would leave a faint trace of rubber, BUT when it lost one wheel, the ABS might have thought that wheel was skidding and reduce breaking to all wheel. at least one of the two hydrualic circuit

Here is the thread I mentioned...

GT5-S Crash Rebuild

I'm not a specialist but I know that modern ABS react very fast, dozens of times per second and act on each wheel separately, so even with one wheel pulled the other three continue to brake, but I'm not sure of all that leaves visible traces.


Technically a good bodybuilder can (almost?) made everything, the real question is purely economic with the insurance and I wish you find a good agreement.

Absolutely terrible. So sad to see this. Also glad you were not in it.

You were not hurt so all is well. Not an easy fix but is certainly reparable as long as your policy has a reasonable limit. The other insurance company will look at that so do not let the adjuster intimidate. Good luck.

We live in a "no fault" state, so I assume that means both insurance companies have a stake in low balling me. I'm going to get a few independent estimates to present to their adjusters.
I've been contacted, off board, by a member who has gone through all of this. I'm sure he will be an invaluable resource.
Thanks everyone, for the advice and support.

So, what does the other vehicle look like?

I have no experience of 'no fault' insurance here in the US, but thought it was akin to a first party insurance i.e. your insurer covers your losses, her insurer hers. If that is true you should only be dealing with your insurer and hopefully you had an agreed value policy, which might make it easier to convince them to repair over full payout.

Very sad to see, hopefully they threw the book at her for distracted driving and speeding.

Here's the truck. That's not a lowering kit on the right side.

Nother one.

AND she is still "on the phone" sitting there

UNBELIEVABLE! As cautious as we are, driving defensively in these cars, and have someone drive into it well off the roadway next to the curb & parked.

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Originally posted by JAG13CAT:
UNBELIEVABLE! As cautious as we are, driving defensively in these cars, and have someone drive into it well off the roadway next to the curb & parked.

And across a bike lane!

That makes two Panteras damaged by stupidity on virtually the same day, the other was being test driven by an interested buyer and can be seen on Bring a Trailer. Neither should could be called an accident.
I'm glad nobody was hurt in either. After 19 years of ownership I would not give up on this loyal family member. Best of luck with the reconstruction.

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Originally posted by mooso:
We live in a "no fault" state, so I assume that means both insurance companies have a stake in low balling me. I'm going to get a few independent estimates to present to their adjusters.
I've been contacted, off board, by a member who has gone through all of this. I'm sure he will be an invaluable resource.
Thanks everyone, for the advice and support.

So sad, glad your not hurt.
I live in Michigan, also a No-Fault state. Your insurance is all you will deal with. Here the at fault driver will have to cover your deductible that's it(if the same as here) I would talk to a attorney to make sure you get all of your contractual coverages. Good luck on all of your repairs.
Jeff

Mooso,

I am sorry man...that totally sucks. You had such a beautiful car.

I had the privilege of catching a ride in it years ago on my quest for different seats in my Pantera. It was a great cat and fortunately with the right body guy/gal it can be again.

Keep your head up. Glad you were not injured in the accident. Take care.

Devin

And on every photo she is on the cell phone.

Hopefully you get the things done well.

Man that hurts to look at let alone being there.
Again, you weren't hurt but still I feel for you.
Does the brainless moron driver have any idea what they wrecked ?
And yes, it's repairable.
Hang in there.

I'm so sorry that this happened. I know your pain. I am still dealing with the insurance companies on both sides. Feel free to contact me...I may have some good info regarding the claims since that is also my business.

Thanks Rick,
The insurance appraiser looked at the car today. They sent an independent appraiser who seemed to know his stuff. But he also warned me that the insurance company is likely to low ball me in spite of his report. So I guess I'll be waiting for his numbers and then see where we're at.
If I'm not happy, I'll pay for my own appraisal, and contact you for advice on how to deal with negotiating a fair settlement.

Let me know.....and good luck.

Soooo very sorry! Hope you can get her back together and looking beautiful again soon!

At the risk of asking a dumb question .. I'm assuming that the truck driver's insurance is picking up the tab. If his/her insurance underestimates and you can demonstrate the true value can't you sue the truck driver for the difference?