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The factor early 71 aluminum tank had 1 baffle between the filler neck and the sending unit.

Would that be a vertical baffle? I know some gas tanks incorporate several baffles to prevent sloshing and actually add safety in accidents. I doubt many custom car makers do too much baffling but was curious on what others have done.

Yes it was a vertical baffle that divided the tank in to a front and rear section as it is mounted in the car.

Are you gonna weld one of them rubber bladder things inside? Certain santioning bodies make you have to have a rubber bladder, but I am not sure which ones they are.

I was wondering if they could be made for custom od ball shapes. This should end up being a near mirror image of a stock tank.

G

ATI up here in NJ will make any tank in plastic with a bladder or baffles. I have not checked the price yet.

...the alcohol in todays fuels will DISOLVE aluminum! I would build mine out of Stainless Steel. Yes! Much Heavier; But will Last Forever!...

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the alcohol in todays fuels will DISOLVE aluminum

E85 is most certainly an issue with aluminum. They do not play well together.

However, the currently more common 10% ethanol is not a high enough strength to cause problems. Commercial fuel delivery systems, with aluminum parts, are rated compatible with the 10% blends.

As I don't think any of us are converting our Panteras to E85 compatibility, I doubt an aluminum tank will be an issue for normal use. In fact some of the early cars came with an aluminum tank from the factory.

Larry

I dont think in about 5 years any of us will have a choice if we use E85 ... I think thats all they will be selling.

Ron

Saab now make a car that produces more power on E85 than on standard fuel.
I guess this is achieved by exploiting the E85 higher octane - by increasing the turbo boost a when running on E85.
They quote a 16% increase in torque.

Two issues involved with using "crops" for fuel: land and reliability of fuel supply.

Issue 1. Do you want your farmland used to produce fuel or food? As more farmland is turned over to producing fuel crops, less farmland is left to produce food, and the price of food will increase. Increasing ethanol usage has already impacted the price of food.

Issue 2. Oil can be pumped out of the ground as needed. Need more, pump more. Its reliable. Food crops are not reliable. They are susceptible to freezes, droughts, heat waves, water supply issues, insects, etc. Are you prepared for an un-relaible fuel supply?

cowboy from hell

The only thing that can save our ass is gasification of coal. The Germans did it in WWII with little or no trouble. We have a 250 year supply of clean coal. The ONLY ones who don't like that idea are the enviro-wackos.

George,

As I;m no expert on this ..so I ask this question ..what is the composition of E85 that reacts with aluminum ??

Also whats thew shelf life of E85 as compared to gas ?

Ron

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what is the composition of E85 that reacts with aluminum ??

I Googled this last night.

The ethanol, in that high a percentage, will affect aluminum.

Now, why ethanol in the lower 10% range is not seen as an issue I could not really find answered.

But I do remember back-in-the-day that my personal experience DID show increased effects directly in proportion to the strength of the ethanol consumed. (beer vs. Canadian Mist, for example)



Larry

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Originally posted by DeTom:
The only thing that can save our ass is gasification of coal. The Germans did it in WWII with little or no trouble. We have a 250 year supply of clean coal. The ONLY ones who don't like that idea are the enviro-wackos.

Depends upon what problem you're trying to solve, air pollution, foreign dependency, or global warming. My preference is LPG, propane!

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Originally posted by accobra:
...what is the composition of E85 that reacts with aluminum...

Its conductivity (causes electrolysis), its affinity with water, its pH

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...whats the shelf life of E85 as compared to gas...

I don't know, but I have read recommendations to use Sta-Bil in it, just like the recommendations for modern gasoline formulas

Sorry I have been AOL after I ask the question. I have been out on a trip. Just got home 2:30am. Goodnight!

Gary

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Depends upon what problem you're trying to solve, air pollution, foreign dependency, or global warming. My preference is LPG, propane!

LPG my preference too !

Im Europe many cars and trucks are using LPG .I have tried to convert my Service Vans to LPG ... but either there is no kit made or its not approved for use on the streets by the DOT in the USA.

Maybe now that the USA is trying to use alternate fuel the DOT may loosin up and let manufacterures make approved kits to convert Gas to LPG.

The new EFI is the ideal set up for LPG ... a carberator is a little difficult.

The only downfall is LPG is you may have a situation where you have a compressed cylinder in a minivan loaded with children.

Ron

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Depends upon what problem you're trying to solve, air pollution, foreign dependency, or global warming.

The first two are real problems. The last belongs in the category of bigfoot, smart blondes and santa clause.