Momo hub help

Have you called Steve?

I have one and there is no problem with it. a lot of other people are using one also. A lot of these cars have been apart and altered by previous owners. Maybe you have one of those?

Best thing to do is to call Steve (he doesn't like email much). The installation should be a piece of cake.

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Have you called Steve?

Closed on Mondays.

Interestingly enough, I have a MOMO hub and tried to install last night. Got the stock wheel off fine, and the MOMO is WAY too tight. It grips the first millimeter of spline, and the will NOT go down any further. More force here and I'm concerned about damaging either hub or shaft.

Anyone else have this issue? Doug, was this your problem? How'd it get resolved?

Thanks.

Be careful ..because if memory serves me correctly .. some of the splines have either a flat spot or a slot where the hub might have to go on only one way ? I could be wrong but inpsect it very carefully.

Ron

That's a good idea, and to be honest, I only aligned it with front wheels 'straight' and blinker/cancel slot as a reference. There may in fact be another visual clue in the hub itself that I didn't check.

My original wheel slipped right back on, with minimal effort though.

I heard some months back that there was a rash of MOMO hubs that got returned for fitment, didn't know if I got a late batch of those. Will check though, and thanks.

My Momo hub came from Wilkinson. It went on with no issues.

Make sure that there is no debris on the shaft. Clean it up a Dremel wire wheel. A light shot of WD-40 will also clean out the splines and act as a lubricant. You should be able to get the hub on enough to start the nut. It will tighten down with minimal effort.

Last and important is to make sure to align the red plastic turn signal cancel piece in the hub key correctly.

Jeff

I bought my hub from Wilkinson. There was zero problem with the installation. The hub was perfect.

Check the splines on the steering shaft for irregularities and maybe polish them up with some plumbers emery cloth.

Mine did not have the original steering wheel on it. I was replacing a LeCarrera wheel with the Momo.

If I had to guess what the problem is I would say the the splines are fouled on the shaft but you do need to consider whether or not you have the correct hub. It is possible that you do not.

Adams,

Same as you, my original popped right off with 1/2 turn on the puller. I cleaned and greased the splines. Tried to fit the hub, no way!
Called the vendor and was told to grab the universal knuckle on the steering shaft located just above the pedals and pull up. I guess when you pull the original off the whole shaft can slide back 2 inches. Pull the shaft as far forward as it will go and see if this helps. Then I tackled the groves in the hub. I literally had to scrape out each individual groove. A very little scrape, trial fit, little more scrape, trial fit. Finally I got it so it would slide freely enough that the nut could tighten it down.
A big pain in the a** but I got it to fit.
Returning stuff to the U.S. from up here is an even bigger pain in the a** so I was determined to make it fit.
Doug M

Great advice, thanks guys. I found that little ' 2 inch linkage drop' almost by accident. I've not fully cleaned the splines, but that's my next step.

Amazing then that the original goes on so easy, the new hub so reluctantly. Guess the old parts are wearing out or something! Glad that's not happening to me.

I'll check on this, let you guys know. Thanks a bunch.

I thought that if the steering column shaft dropped or you could push the steering wheel in that was indicative of a failed lower column bushing?

The column is a two piece with a slip joint and the plastic clips break which is often the source of steering play. Some advocate pinning or welding the two halves stogether.

Julian

" Guess the old parts are wearing out or something!"

Actually Adams I think its more like the vendors used by Detomaso may had so much variation in machining that there isnt 100% consitancy in the machining of parts. Too loose would really be dangerous.

ROn

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Originally posted by Joules5:
I thought that if the steering column shaft dropped or you could push the steering wheel in that was indicative of a failed lower column bushing?

The column is a two piece with a slip joint and the plastic clips break which is often the source of steering play. Some advocate pinning or welding the two halves stogether.

Julian

Yes, there is a web article floating around that gives the impression that if you can push the steering column shaft down that the bushing is shot, but that is not always the case. The spring at the top of the steering column shaft is what holds the shaft in the up position against the bottom of the bushing in the lower column. I expect that on all Panteras the column can be pushed down some against the spring. When the wheel is removed the shaft can be pushed way down as the slip joint collapses. If the lower bushing is damaged the shaft can move up until the U joint hits the bottom of the steering column tube. Here is a link that has pictures of the bushing http://www.panteraplace.com/page208.htm It also covers a simple repair for the slip joint.

Mike

Wow - thanks to ALL of you for this seemingly minor problem, chiming in with great help. Let me get right to the point -

I was sure you were all lying.

I mean, there was NO WAY that hub was going over the steering splines. It was too tight, too soon (make your own jokes here) and it just wouldn't budge. So, JUST TO HUMOR YOU PEOPLE I cleaned it.

Again. And again, and I got some 220 paper folded tightly and went into the splines on both shaft and hub. WD40'd the whole bit, wiped it down. 'Twas all shiny, but NO WAY was that stupid hub that would NOT fit ever going to just slip over and...

It went on.

Took a little coaxing, but Lordy it went on, and it looks great, feels even better.

As is my usual obsession, I saved the original parts after cleaning, put 'em in a bag (my crash pad is about perfect) for whoever is the next historically wacky caretaker. At least my Prototipo is GTS option, so that's my defense.

Thanks guys, could not have done it without you.

And Mike Dailey, your website and contribution to this hobby is just beyond belief. I can't wait to meet you and buy you a bearing or something.

I wouldn't tell you a fib on this. Glad it worked out.

Congrats Adams, I knew you could do it !

How long have you owned your current Pantera ? And you are just now discovering Mike's site ?

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How long have you owned your current Pantera ? And you are just now discovering Mike's site ?

I was merely trying to thank him AGAIN for his profuse contribution... much the same way as I'm trying to have your posts 'accidentally' forward to the Boy George fan site.

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I was merely trying to thank him AGAIN for his profuse contribution... much the same way as I'm trying to have your posts 'accidentally' forward to the Boy George fan site.

Good one Adams ! The fact that you even mentioning " Boy George" is very scary . But I know that you lead several lives. Including the not well known life of an "F" Chatter.

We are still waiting for pictures of all of your toys.
Jeff

Well, here's a poor photo of the new Prototipo in place. Thanks again. It was indeed a VERY tight fit, but it actually feels more crisp to steer with fractoinally less slop that I never noticed before.

Look'in Good !!

Doug, you should post a pic of your new wheel. It looks awesome!

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Look'in Good !!

Thanks! I drove it around a good bit today. It might be my imagination, but the car seems tighter. My other wheel definitely had more 'dead' movement than this one.

Of course, I'll have to use plastic explosives to get it off, but hey, it looks cool.