Wow....saw this 74L this morning on ebay with only 135 miles and offered at $125,000! The car is a time capsule....no radio either!
Pristine Pantera
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Yeah, that's the "Time Capsule" "100-mile" Pantera.
Perpetually for sale for larger amounts after each time it sells. It must be the lowest-mileage cat out there. Too bad it wasn't yellow or orange. I'm not slamming white per se, but it isn't the sexiest color to have on a car you're just going to put in a display and look at.
Mark
Perpetually for sale for larger amounts after each time it sells. It must be the lowest-mileage cat out there. Too bad it wasn't yellow or orange. I'm not slamming white per se, but it isn't the sexiest color to have on a car you're just going to put in a display and look at.
Mark
quote:Perpetually for sale for larger amounts after each time it sells.
Yeah, I wondered if that might be the case, as the auction description refers to the car as a "33-year old collector car". Maybe they used the same add and forgot to change the age.
John
can tell I am new to the pantera world. "the time capsule" ... Love it.
Yes, nice car.
But it is now FAR from original.
I sent the following to the seller.
It sums up my feelings pretty well.
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You start off your description of this Pantera by saying it has not been touched, modified or restored.
Your asking price makes it appear your intended buyer will be someone that wants to show this car as an original survivor.
Then you go into great detail of all the parts you replaced, modified or upgraded.
Your changes/replacements/upgrades have taken away any true sense of "original", and thus the justification of your pricing at this level.
Likewise, far more intensely upgraded Panteras can be purchased for much less than your price on this car.
It seems you were trying to serve two masters with this car. But you've missed the mark on both an original, or an upgraded, Pantera.
The car does look great. I do wish you luck on your sale, but I sure don't think what you have done with this car will work in your favor.
If you should obtain another time-capsule car such as this, just leave well-enough alone and let the buyer decide what changes are needed.
Just my 2¢
Larry
But it is now FAR from original.
I sent the following to the seller.
It sums up my feelings pretty well.
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You start off your description of this Pantera by saying it has not been touched, modified or restored.
Your asking price makes it appear your intended buyer will be someone that wants to show this car as an original survivor.
Then you go into great detail of all the parts you replaced, modified or upgraded.
Your changes/replacements/upgrades have taken away any true sense of "original", and thus the justification of your pricing at this level.
Likewise, far more intensely upgraded Panteras can be purchased for much less than your price on this car.
It seems you were trying to serve two masters with this car. But you've missed the mark on both an original, or an upgraded, Pantera.
The car does look great. I do wish you luck on your sale, but I sure don't think what you have done with this car will work in your favor.
If you should obtain another time-capsule car such as this, just leave well-enough alone and let the buyer decide what changes are needed.
Just my 2¢
Larry
This is a really nice, special car. Cars like this make my pulse speed up. Didn't Wayne Carrini have this for sale once? But not for that $$$ unless truly untouched
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Yes, nice car.
You start off your description of this Pantera by saying it has not been touched, modified or restored.
Your asking price makes it appear your intended buyer will be someone that wants to show this car as an original survivor.
Then you go into great detail of all the parts you replaced, modified or upgraded.
Your changes/replacements/upgrades have taken away any true sense of "original", and thus the justification of your pricing at this level.
Larry
Larry,
I agree 100 percent, to be an original it should be an entirely unmolested Pantera down to the original tires!!!!
The upgraded AC was a red flag for me on an "unmodified" car. I am sure the car is great, but now it isn't original, AND doesn't have the upgrades that make the cars better. No longer the perfect collector car, or the best driver.
Larry is bang-on the money.
I know of one individual who was very seriously interested in the car and once he saw that had been altered it was no longer of interest to him. Too bad because as we all know, they are only original once. If I was the owner, I would make every possible effort to undo the "upgrades" and hope that some new interested party will come along. What will probably happen is that some unsuspecting buyer will believe the car is 100% original and when he finds out it isn't will put it up for sale—at a higher amount.
Mark
I know of one individual who was very seriously interested in the car and once he saw that had been altered it was no longer of interest to him. Too bad because as we all know, they are only original once. If I was the owner, I would make every possible effort to undo the "upgrades" and hope that some new interested party will come along. What will probably happen is that some unsuspecting buyer will believe the car is 100% original and when he finds out it isn't will put it up for sale—at a higher amount.
Mark
I've moved this thread from the FOR SALE forum to the PUB. Has anyone ever read the heading at the top of the FOR SALE forum?
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Do not post an ad unless you are a dealer, the owner of the car for sale, or a friend of the owner who has been asked to post an advertisement on the owner's behalf. If you find a Pantera for sale on Craig's List or eBay, don't post it here. Due to the frequency of mis-posting in this forum any third party posts in the Panteras For Sale Forum will no longer be moved to another forum, they shall be deleted.
This forum is ONLY for "Panteras or DeTomasos for Sale" ads. Please respect those trying to sell their cars by not posting other topics in this forum. If you want to know the value of a car, post your inquiry in the ownership issues forum. If you want to discuss a certain car for sale on ebay or elsewhere, post your topic in the specific car info forum.
-G
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Do not post an ad unless you are a dealer, the owner of the car for sale, or a friend of the owner who has been asked to post an advertisement on the owner's behalf. If you find a Pantera for sale on Craig's List or eBay, don't post it here. Due to the frequency of mis-posting in this forum any third party posts in the Panteras For Sale Forum will no longer be moved to another forum, they shall be deleted.
This forum is ONLY for "Panteras or DeTomasos for Sale" ads. Please respect those trying to sell their cars by not posting other topics in this forum. If you want to know the value of a car, post your inquiry in the ownership issues forum. If you want to discuss a certain car for sale on ebay or elsewhere, post your topic in the specific car info forum.
-G
quote:Originally posted by DeLoreans and DeTomasos:
This is a really nice, special car. Cars like this make my pulse speed up. Didn't Wayne Carrini have this for sale once? But not for that $$$ unless truly untouched
I believe this is the same Pantera Wayne had, price still seems to high and I believe he sold it at a lost compared to what he bought it for.
quote:Originally posted by Cowboy from Hell:
I've moved this thread from the FOR SALE forum to the PUB. Has anyone ever read the heading at the top of the FOR SALE forum?
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Do not post an ad unless you are a dealer, the owner of the car for sale, or a friend of the owner who has been asked to post an advertisement on the owner's behalf. If you find a Pantera for sale on Craig's List or eBay, don't post it here. Due to the frequency of mis-posting in this forum any third party posts in the Panteras For Sale Forum will no longer be moved to another forum, they shall be deleted.
This forum is ONLY for "Panteras or DeTomasos for Sale" ads. Please respect those trying to sell their cars by not posting other topics in this forum. If you want to know the value of a car, post your inquiry in the ownership issues forum. If you want to discuss a certain car for sale on ebay or elsewhere, post your topic in the specific car info forum.
-G
My bad George. In my excitement I overlooked this disclaimer. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Me too. I just tend to find people who are being bad and follow them around talking to them. I will try to behave better from now on. Well, for the next few minutes anyway.
Mark
Mark
quote:Originally posted by Mark Charlton:
... find people who are being bad and follow them around ...
-G