chemical dip. total restoration
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Where do you chemical dip, I cant seem to find a place
Thanks
Daniel
Thanks
Daniel
daniel, I use a company call strip clean in Santa Ana, Ca. their phone number is 714-775-7797. now is a good time to do things if you got the money because it seem some of the car restorer are in need of work. they used to have a 6 months waiting list, now you get it back in 2 weeks with no wait.
dean
dean
I've heard cautions regarding dipping, in that the solution can tend to 'hide' deep in seams, only to come out later with bad results.
What steps are taken to neutralize the dip solution, dry the chassis, and final rinse/coat to prevent surface rusting?
Larry
What steps are taken to neutralize the dip solution, dry the chassis, and final rinse/coat to prevent surface rusting?
Larry
it seem like they neutralize the car with a good pressure wash. then treat it with some kind of chemical that prevent surface rust. i'm sure there will be problem if it was taken out in the rain or water somehow got into the crevisis that i cant treat with por15 or some other kind of chemicals.
The reason i had it chemical dip instead of bead blast is the pantera rust from the inside out. there is no way to blast inside all the hidden areas and blasting will leave sand or bead or glass in the hidden areas forever.
dean
The reason i had it chemical dip instead of bead blast is the pantera rust from the inside out. there is no way to blast inside all the hidden areas and blasting will leave sand or bead or glass in the hidden areas forever.
dean
quote:Originally posted by dean:
it seem like they neutralize the car with a good pressure wash. then treat it with some kind of chemical that prevent surface rust. i'm sure there will be problem if it was taken out in the rain or water somehow got into the crevisis that i cant treat with por15 or some other kind of chemicals.
The reason i had it chemical dip instead of bead blast is the pantera rust from the inside out. there is no way to blast inside all the hidden areas and blasting will leave sand or bead or glass in the hidden areas forever.
dean
I talked to two guys that chemically dipped. One rusted from the inside out after restoration. The other had chemicals pop out one of the first times out and ruined the paint.
I have blasted two cars and wouldn't do it any other way. I have found the sand issue just one more task to manage but not a real issue by comparison; certainly not much difference then primer dust which hides everywhere when prepping the car for paint.
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
I've heard cautions regarding dipping, in that the solution can tend to 'hide' deep in seams, only to come out later with bad results.
Larry
My friends Pantera did that. I’m not sure how they cleaned it after the dip but corrosion started under the paint in areas where parts are spot welded together. It seems like the two pieces of overlapping metal trap the dip like the back edge of the trunk lid.
Mike
Okay,
seams like a no brainer.....sand blast, media blast etc. and deal with the sand. the sand just seamed to keep coming back year after year, little here, little there....definatley a lesser of two evils.
thanks for everyone's input
Daniel
seams like a no brainer.....sand blast, media blast etc. and deal with the sand. the sand just seamed to keep coming back year after year, little here, little there....definatley a lesser of two evils.
thanks for everyone's input
Daniel
Good luck. After what I went through with a much easier starting point I can tell that you have a huge task ahead. But if you love what the car can be it will be an amazing project.
in a week or two i am going to built a rotisserie for the car.
Dean I have general dimensions of the one I built if you like. Pretty straight forward design.
Comp2,
I'd love a copy of those dimensions/plans for your rotisserie too. Please feel free to send directly to my email at garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Thanks,
Garth
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I'd love a copy of those dimensions/plans for your rotisserie too. Please feel free to send directly to my email at garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Thanks,
Garth
#4033
g'me a couple days. I will get them to you. I have a bit of flying going on this week.
Gary
Gary
thanks gary, my email is scratchbg@hotmail.com
dean
dean
quote:it seem like they neutralize the car with a good pressure wash. then treat it with some kind of chemical that prevent surface rust.
All liquids.
Please, I strongly suggest you find a method to have that shell baked in an oven to force out all the hidden fluids.
My initial cautions have been supported by several others comments.
I would hate to read about your paint job, or rust prevention, failures several years down the road after your restoration is finished.
To paraphrase a Pantera buzz-word - BAKE IT!!
Larry
Neutralising dip then baking: http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/index.html
See the GT5S in the their portfolio and watch the video.
They offer an optional electrophoretic primer service.
I'm considering using this company if I decide to keep my Longchamp.
Very nice.
Phil
79 Longchamp GTS 3061
See the GT5S in the their portfolio and watch the video.
They offer an optional electrophoretic primer service.
I'm considering using this company if I decide to keep my Longchamp.
Very nice.
Phil
79 Longchamp GTS 3061
i think that would be the best way to do it. better than anything i heard so far.