I am planning the installation of the rear window into a Pushbutton car and need to confirm that the glass is the correct height. The opening for the window measures 11" in height at the middle. More precisely, the opening is 11" between the thin metal ridges that the weatherstrip fits over.
I seem to recall that the Pushbutton may use a different size piece of glass than the subsequent cars.
Does anyone have the rear window out of a car and can take this measurement?
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Hello everyone, here are some pictures to be able to compare the very important difference in size between the rear window of the push-button and that of the standard Pantera.
Greetings
Fernando
Thanks Fernando.
The windows size is significantly different. Now I am wondering about the weatherstrip gasket. It looks like the Pushbutton might need a bigger gasket.
I don't think you need a bigger joint, but longer for sure ....
Oops, I did not know that. I've already got a new gasket for my push button. Is the correct one still available somewhere.
Steve, do you still need the measurement? Mine is out of the car. Still. :-(
Jochen
Jochen, if you have the glass out of the car and it's convenient, the height measurement of the glass itself would be helpful. Also, is it the original piece of the glass for the car?
Yes, it is the original glass. I will unpack and measure it for you tomorrow.
I have the original gasket. It looks like I will be cleaning this one up and using it. I don't know if new ones of this are available.
You might be able to make the new style gasket work with the Pushbutton glass by either stretching it or modifying it.
I am just completing my PB. Bought the gaskets from Italy at Cicognani. They bought the old equipment from the original manufacturers.
http://www.cicognaniguarnizion...-148/pantera-148-i05
Cheers.
But they don't differentiate between first and second series for the rear windscreen gasket. It is only a single offering, unlike their front windscreen gasket.
Here you go Steve. It is approx. 11".
I have also taken the opportunity to test fit the new rubber and it is too big/long.
Be aware , not all PushButtons are the same,
The first 10 -15 units are total different than up to #75 and from here up to 200 have also different parts and the last build PB have also different parts.
Think there are 4 types of PB Pantera's
Thats why I was looking for one of the first 75 build PB Pantera's .
Weird that the factory made 4 versions of the Push-Button pre-series
i never heard of it
@wrinkleeffect posted:Weird that the factory made 4 versions of the Push-Button pre-series
i never heard of it
1-15 ? 2 piece front grille
til # 75 battery in engine room ,
up to #200, trunk opener in driver door post .
the last units has the trunk opener into the tailpanel ( pushbutton) like the later build Pantera's.
Also the later PB have a dash 2 ZF rear mount and 2 slot wheels .
Notice all the time differences , but a few early PB are also modified on restaurations to later build
Maybe I make a mistake , please correct me if I am wrong.
Simon
It's not exactly a " pushbutton " thing. Early square door cars had the taller window also. My (#1889) has the 11 1/8" window and I currently have #2253 in the shop which has the smaller ( 10 1/8" ) window . So the change happened sometime between them.
Ron
It looks like the height of the opening and the glass are almost the same. No wonder it is difficult to get these windows back in.
@rmccall posted:It's not exactly a " pushbutton " thing. Early square door cars had the taller window also. My (#1889) has the 11 1/8" window and I currently have #2253 in the shop which has the smaller ( 10 1/8" ) window . So the change happened sometime between them.
Ron
I didnt know this before , learn every day .
Simon
Unless someone knows of a better way, I will be making a template from luan plywood and taking it to a custom glass shop to have the window made since these windows are not stocked. I borrowed Wilkinson's cardboard template for a tall window and it found it to be a poor fit on my car. My hunch is that each one of the back window openings on the early cars is a little different.
I am trying to figure out how much of a gap between the glass and metal ridge is tolerable. I know that a bigger gap makes the installation easier. But if the gap is too large then the glass could wobble in the gasket or even come out.
Any insight on this matter is appreciated.
Thanks, Ron- I learn something every day about these beasts! Someone once posted that the 1st 75 or so pushbutton cars were different even from later pushbuttons....
