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They look like Gr4 lights.

The amber portion of those lights are wider than the amber portion of the Group 4 lights, and there's a small chrome frame around the entire light as well as each of the 3 colored sections.

I wonder if that light was OEM to that Pantera, or if they were installed at a later date by an owner. I can't remember seeing that exact taillight before.

This car also has the later GT5/GT5-S wipers with the little air foils, and different side marker lenses.

cowboy from hell

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different side marker lenses.

Those are standard Euro GTS side lights.

I have a set in the garage. I'll post closeups later.

As for the tail lights, they are new to me also.

Larry

I found where the tail lights are comming from :
RENAULT 16 type TS.

I ask a french RENAULT specialist and he told that the Renault R16 TS changed for these specific tail lights in september 1970.

But I dont know if those are original on a Pantera.

The "Powered by Ford" plate is on the left side and it appears there may be some sort of script on the right side of the lid. Was this standard on early cars?

On this picture we can see the specific early "DeTomaso Pantera" logo but on the deck lid.
I suppose a precedent owner move it to this place as the "powered by FORD" logo ?

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different side marker lenses

These were used on Euro GTS cars.
The pair I have seems to be not a high production-run item, but instead probably made in small numbers at De Tomaso - or a small sub contractor. Welding for the mounting studs is crude and uneven.

They consist of a steel plate that fits inside the usual chrome, plastic side marker light buckets. The light assembly itself I have seen in other places; it was I believe, a small side indicator light. Carello.

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Welding for the mounting studs is crude and uneven

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a small side indicator light. Carello.

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I found where the tail lights are comming from :
RENAULT 16 type TS.

And surprisingly, there is a pair for sale on eBay USA.

http://tinyurl.com/6yd65o

Note however that only one side has a clear back-up lens. The other is amber. This is common among French tail lights, but I have yet to figure out why.

Pantera74 - can you explain why French cars have amber back-ups?

Also,from the auction photos, it looks like mounting these lights in a Pantera would be a bit of an effort. They appear to be slightly curved at the outside edges - problem #1.

And these lights have three mounting studs no where close to the Pantera studs in location or depth - problem #2.

I HIGHLY doubt this car came from De Tomaso with those lights. I've checked my hard cover books for all the early photos of the Pantera, and they all show the standard Euro version of the Alfa lights Ford used.

Larry

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Note however that only one side has a clear back-up lens. The other is amber. This is common among French tail lights, but I have yet to figure out why.

This is common practice in Europe. Only a single reverse light incorporated into a lot of vehicles. The opposite side will often be a single rear high intensity fog light (on the offside/drivers side).

Maybe Europeans can just reverse better than your average American

Good eye George ... my 79 Euro GTS has those exact wipers ... witht he little deflectors.

But as for side markers on a EURO CAR ... I have to question that ..because I didnt think side markers were required on a EURO car...but I could be wrong.

.. my Euro Car in 79 they were added to come to the USA and being a LATER car they look more recessed. Similar to what was used on a Maverick or mustang .

The tailights I kind or like.

Ron

My '73 Euro car has those same (or at least similar) sidemarkers. I will take some pics and post later.

Just to add: The car was originally delivered to Germany, so that may have something to do with it.

Here are the pics I promised. The red one is for the back. Let me know if you would like more info.

Here's another.