TURN SIGNALS on your Cat-it's the LAW in CA...
http://www.accesscom.com/~dave6592/sections.html#24951
Very few if any modern cars carry true 'side marker' lights anymore, although the manufacturers may be getting around that requirement with modern wraparound style lights that are visible from the side.
Julian
Julian
quote:TURN SIGNALS on your Cat-it's the LAW in CA...
As I read all that,yup, our Panteras need front and rear turn signal lights.
But the side marker lights appear to be optional.
SIDE MARKER LAMPS on your Cat-it's the LAW in CA
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25100.htm
the rule applies to any car "built on or after January 1st, 1968".
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25100.htm
the rule applies to any car "built on or after January 1st, 1968".
Hmmm, not how I read it.
25100. (a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (d), every vehicle 80 inches or more in overall width shall be equipped during darkness as follows:
(d) Clearance and side-marker lamps are not required on auxiliary dollies or on passenger vehicles other than a housecar.
However, if you have converted your Pantera into a housecar that is more than 80" wide, you better keep the side markers.
Larry
25100. (a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (d), every vehicle 80 inches or more in overall width shall be equipped during darkness as follows:
(d) Clearance and side-marker lamps are not required on auxiliary dollies or on passenger vehicles other than a housecar.
However, if you have converted your Pantera into a housecar that is more than 80" wide, you better keep the side markers.
Larry
look at the very last item, #f
...anything built on or after January 1st, 1968...
The "acid test" would be to try to find any car built after that date that does not have side marker lights or at least tail lamps and/or front turn signals that wrap around the sides and function as such.
I cannot think of any car legally sold in the U.S. that doesn't have illumination on the sides built since 1/1/1968.
...anything built on or after January 1st, 1968...
The "acid test" would be to try to find any car built after that date that does not have side marker lights or at least tail lamps and/or front turn signals that wrap around the sides and function as such.
I cannot think of any car legally sold in the U.S. that doesn't have illumination on the sides built since 1/1/1968.
quote:look at the very last item, #f
...anything built on or after January 1st, 1968..
The key point to this section is at the very beginning.
It applies only to vehicles wider than 80", with the exceptions noted in (b) and (d).
The January 1, 1968 reference is specifying the height of the lights for included vehicles (80" wide) made after that date. Height is not regulated for vehicles built before that date.
Again, this section does not apply to our passenger cars.
There may very well be a section that applies to our cars, but this isn't it.
Larry
Hi Larry,
Can you think of any vehicle that passed the "acid test" in regards to anything built since January 1st, 1968 that does NOT have some kind of side marker illumination?
If not, I believe that side marker lights are required...
Can you think of any vehicle that passed the "acid test" in regards to anything built since January 1st, 1968 that does NOT have some kind of side marker illumination?
If not, I believe that side marker lights are required...
quote:Can you think of any vehicle that passed the "acid test" in regards to anything built since January 1st, 1968 that does NOT have some kind of side marker illumination?
Hi Kelly,
No I can't. As I have already said, your point is valid.
But this discussion was started on what was legal to drive on the street.
The side marker reg was another Fed mandate. It may well have been adopted by some/all states.
But section 25100 is not for passenger cars. It in fact specifically exempts passenger cars.
As I said, it may very well be a requirement, but 25100 isn't what an officer would use to cite an owner of a passenger car for deleted side marker lights.
And I'm still wondering just what the legal differences are between a clearance light and a side-marker light?
Find me the CA vehicle code for side marker lights on passenger cars and I'll admit defeat.
Larry
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
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And I'm still wondering just what the legal differences are between a clearance light and a side-marker light?
Larry
Larry
As I read clearance lights are on a forward facing surface of the vehicle-such as the top of the cab or the tailgate of the truck. Side marker lights are on a side facing surface-such as a fender or door. Legal difference then would only be the location on the vehicle-otherwise they are the same.