#3648 Mechancial Restoration

Doesn’t look too bad from these photos. Will be curious to find what you discover as you worked your way through it.

Larry

I am glad to hear that you picked up the fight. It will be an amazing journey and the beer consumption will go up a lot including your vocabulary of cuss words will increase.  My car sat 23 years before I was able to rescue it. All that sounds and looks strangely familiar down to the color. #4164 is (was) also yellow. Looking forward seeing your progress...

Cheers,

Stephan

Looking forward to see the progression, very cool!

Rocky

Keep us posted on your endeavor !!!

The 1st. was to see if I could get it to run, so after replacing the fuel pump (manual), draining the gas, washing out the tank, adding gas, I got ti to run, but NOT drivable, gas coming out of the gas lines, water coming out of the heater lines, that is what happens after sitting for 25-years.

That’s pretty good!

I’m sure there’s a lot of people with much worse situations to deal with! Car looks very clean!

7146 sat for 22 years or so as well - in my own garage. Ron McCall did most of the freshening up and I'm due to pick it up this Thursday. Finally!

Because Ron was backed up, last spring I brought it to a well regarded local vintage Maserati / Ferrari guy, but his lack of specific Pantera knowledge ending up costing me a lot of calendar time and cash to not much avail. Stupid decision, but I really wanted to get the car on the road. I haven't seen the it yet, but I'll bet you it's right.

Ed,

Good call. Ron did mine about 10 years ago. I'm confident you will be pleased.

Very nice!!!
We got the same exhaust!!

Make it go again!!!

I know what just sitting does to a Pantera… well , you got forum support!

After starting the engine and having water leaks, I decided to re-plumb the water tubes, replace water pump.  See what I found.

Old Water Pump

Old Heater Hose, Not to much water getting through you think?

More to come.

Coronary disease.  Good catch, could have been fatal.

Water hose treatment for the rest of the system..!!

then assess status…

@Roland, After seeing the hose, it was decided to replace all hoses, tubes and check swirl tank & Over flow.  I also was looking at the main positive cable and found this.  I am glad that it did not short to the frame / body.  I determine that there were too many mice / mouses that was in the car over the years, so I am replacing all electrical wires.

Below are pictures of my new S/S tubes.  I installed some bungs for easy radiator draining and also I am going to pick up my heater connections off of the tubes.

Redoing the electrical stuff… soooo much fun!!! I hope you have more success than I had! I learned a lot! Make loads of pics of everything and hope your phone doesn’t die for good!! I lost my pictures and because of that and other things bloody hell started!

Make sure you’re steel heater tubes in the tunnel are still OK!

I found it out a little bit too late! They started leaking only after the car was running for 30 minutes….

made the upgrade…

the new tubes enter the cabin where the drain tube is for the A/c core comes out! Very easy routing!

https://pantera.infopop.cc/top...core-keeping-it-cozy

Roland,  I removed the heater in the tunnel, I will get the water from one of the tubes where I put the bungs into.  NO hot water going through the car.  It will come from the front tube going to radiator to the passenger foot well to the heater, see below.  I think it should work, might have to install an extra pump. What do you think?

@Lardog posted:

Roland,  I removed the heater in the tunnel, I will get the water from one of the tubes where I put the bungs into.  NO hot water going through the car.  It will come from the front tube going to radiator to the passenger foot well to the heater, see below.  I think it should work, might have to install an extra pump. What do you think?

I think you have to provide a 90 degree tube that faces into the pipe going to the water pump to act as an Venturi.. preferably in the return pipe coming from the radiator..(there may be also a pressure difference between inlet and outlet in your advantage caused by the radiator restricting the flow and due to the cooling of the water)

I think Water would just pass by at the holes / turn offs ! Both are in the same tube.. no reason for the water to move into one of the ports…

With the”Venturi “ it should get sucked into the heater core..

I would try to use the natural flow of the water to transport it through the Heater Core..

you still give the engine (and heater core) the water hose treatment.. right…

no reason there wouldn’t be rust and sludge buildup in the water jackets as well!!!

Why not put one heater bung in each tube?  One tube is under pressure, one is under suction….  Not as extreme as directly at the water pump, but you do have a pressure drop across the radiator…

… and you live in Southern California, where your heater shouldn’t get much use!

Not sure if you have considered it or not, but if you’re gonna track your car lot, they sometimes require positive shut off to the heater, from what I understand….

Some tracks, like INDE, don’t worry about that…

Rocky

If you are going to put heater bungs in the water tubes, you may as well put an electronic heater control valve in the pressure side heater hose and remove the OEM heater control valve. You should pass track-tech with this arrangement too because if the valve is closed, the heater core and hoses in the passenger compartment are not under pressure. There used to be a kit available that would allow an electric heater control valve to be controlled by the OEM lever. I haven’t seen it lately but it wouldn’t be too difficult to come up with your own solution. If I recall, Roland (@LeMans850i) did this recently.