427 dart twin turbo

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Holy #&%@!

That's crazy Wayne. Did you win the lotto or something?

Hey Wayne how many shopping trips is this going to cost you?
Richard T.

i wish just working lots of hours

shhh the wife doesnt know about the turbos yet! i dont wanna go shopping any more!

Tell Liza that you got an amazing deal on some chrome hair dryers that you're going to modify with some plumbing bits from Home Depot to look JUST LIKE twin turbos. Tell her that you're going to fool all your Pantera buddies into thinking you spent THOUSANDS on them and they'll be so stupid, they'll believe it. Just make sure to tell her that you can't ever show the car to Jozef, 'cause he's smart enough be able to tell they're fake for sure (adds some credibility that not EVERYONE could be fooled by some chrome hairdryers...)

You'll be home free AND you'll save $$$$ on the expensive shoes you won't have to buy for compensation if you really HAD blown thousands on a couple of blowers...

Thats COOL!

Good to see your idea a reality. Looks like you have lots of fun ahead of you.

i dont think i had to tell liza about the turbos because .its now a more reliable motor ...lol. and there just mufflers...shhh. also if i told liza i bought hair chrome dryers i would have to buy her one!

Wayne, you should get her one. They're like $30 and it will help her feel more connected to the car.

mark do you like trubos?

Well I have a 427 without twin turbos. I would think your twin turbos would make it twice as much fun as my car.

i want them more for looks then power

nice

mark all i know is there t3/t4 turbos i lost (wink) the papers just before i got to the bouder i just emailed the company in calif. asking the part number .i do rember the max psi of the turbos is 30 . but my motor will not except over 16-18 .so we will set them for max 10-12 hoping for no problems .

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Originally posted by wayne995:
i want them more for looks then power

At 12 PSI you will be getting plenty of power to go with your looks.

Blaine

Way to go Wayne,

how many hp do you estimate you will have with your new plumming?

ill be able to tell you guys more on friday its going on a dyno friday 9am

geuss what guess ! i brought the motor in to be dyno today !! IT DOESNT RUN! THERE TERING IT APART RIGHT NOW.....JUST MY LUCK.....F@$#$%$#%^

Wayne, I hope it turns out to be something simple (and cheap) good luck. I hope it gets resolved soon.

Mark

no i didnt have it run from the builder because he fired me . i caught him swaping parts on a surpize drop in visit then he didnt like the way my craton oil pan fit so he put on a stock oil pant . i blew a gasket . and told him to keep to whats on the build sheet and what i was paying for . so he sent me just a long block . today i took the motor in to be dynod and water came out between the heads and the block . gasket problems! next they checked the roller rockers there 2.4 under size. and theres a heeling core problem in the head and thats just the top end.thats when i left .

That SUCKS! Any ideas about recourse?

theres no damage but ill have to buy new roller lifters and gaskets and have the heads fixed or replaced plus a large lobour cost !

to top it off there was a broken boult in the oil pan

Thats brutal Wayne. Dont let it get you down though. Hopefully the guys working on it now are a bit more experienced and less sketchy than the last guy. Good luck.

hey my pantera brothers my dart 427 is all fixed after 3000 its now running . i have the dyno on video how do i post it.

That's awesome Wayne!

UTube to post video or e-mail it to me and I'll post it there for you.

Mark

Going to be one BAD Pantera, keep us updated along the way. Sweeeeeeet

Any luck with the video Wayne?

i dont know how to get the video off the camara and post it . ill have to wait for liza to do it .

Hey Wayne, dump the turbos and go with fuel injection. Thats a lot of compression for turbos.
Richard T.

Forgive my ignorance but what is the compression ratio suppose to be for a twin turbo?

Seems odd that the builder would choose the wrong pistons for this application.Isn't the cam, intake and pistons choosen as a package for turbo use?

Danno

Danno, I think the motor was designed for webbers. Wayne can tell you for sure. I thought the compression ratio for turbos was around 8.5/1.
Richard T.

Wayne - You need to say who the engine builder was so that other Pantera owners can avoid that builder.

I thought I was working someone good (MME) and was dissapointed as well. It seems as if too many engine builders try to get over on their customers when it comes to the details.

Usually engine builders build engines ... in Wayne case yes the engine builder was stealing his parts it seems ... Chris in your case 713hp seems he did a good job.

What were your issues with MME ?? So the others understand ?

Ron

hey guys i finaly got my dart 427 home today after 3409.00 of repair bills on a bran new motor . ill start removing the 351c later this week.is there any thing my pantera brothers need from the 351c? im keeping the block and heads . #numbers matching for #6154

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A few suggestions:
1)- do not throw ANYTHING away from the 351C. Most of the removeable parts are no longer available new and used ones are getting 'more used' by the day....
2)Virtually every engine-conversion Pantera I've seen, including one with an original ZR-1- was eventually reconverted back to a 351-C. But its much harder to find a good 351C these days.
3)- I hope your monster has BIG chassis stiffeners everywhere; the torque will twist things up & probably crack paint & sheetmetal.
Have fun.

Boss .. I would have to agree with that ..that why I welded in my cage and tied it into the roof, rockers, rear fire wall, front frame and rear shock towers and a few more diagnal braces are still needed.

Ron

dyno before lowering the comp,