Some of you may know 2811, but a previous owner had installed the back facing shaker type scoop. I'm not sold on it. It's not bad, but I think I want to remove it for something more "normal" in it's place. See the photos. The screen it's mounted on isn't even fastened down at the front edge, so it rattles a bit. Any thoughts about what to replace the scoop with? Parts? How to do it?
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Remove the scoop and the screen it is sitting on.
throw the scoop in the trashcan.
save the butchered screen, as a Pantera owner should never throw out ANYTHING. In the case of the screen you may well find an owner who needs to repair his, perhaps with just the perimeter edging
get a parts wanted thread started asking for a late model engine screen. I see your car has the outdoor fuel filler so it probably came with the late engine cover. That is the one that has the solid center section as opposed to being all screen.
if you have no success with your parts wanted thread, send an email to Mike Mayberry, the former LM dealer who has an amazing stash of pantera parts.
mikedmayberry@hotmail.com
Larry
I don't mind the look of it. Regardless though don't throw it in the trash. Mustang guys will pay good money for a shaker. Is it fiberglass or cast?
By "normal" do you mean stock? There are a huge variety of options. There are some decent pictures on the web if you google "pantera air filter pic". I made a buck to make my own center cover. The original one did not fit well at all. The curvature was way off compared to the side covers. On my '71 the only fasteners are on on the side of the center cover. The front has a lip that slides into a "V" shaped channel on the firewall. I believe that's how all the center covers were setup. Maybe the later cars changed this. BTW the "dog bone" intake has been dyno tested against more conventional air filters and has negligible effects on hp.
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Otis, it's cast...
I'd be glad to replace it with a screen just like it but without the giant hole drilled out for the scoop...
Early car
late car
The early cars attached the center with sheet metal screws
The later cars attached the center with quarter turn Dzus fasteners
I think you might be able to mix and match early/late pieces as I think the curvatures are the same. With my limited exposure to both, it appears the attachment points differ between the two, so the early screw locations don’t wind up directly above the Dzus fitting’s “large” holes.
Larry
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Thanks Larry, that's helpful. Go back and look at my pictures. the screen on my car is longer than the places to mount it. As a result it rattles since it's only fastened down by two screws in the back. I'd be happy with a screen that fits the space properly...
Is the scoop preventing the screen from sitting down all the way in the back? If so once the scoop is removed it should line up properly, then find an air cleaner you like to fit the existing hole. My screen was cracked so it was not that big a deal to cut into a 2 piece design and make a hole for the plenum box I wanted to use.
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Brian, a new reproduction cast shaker top is around $250-$300. An original Ford one can be double that. There might be a part number in side it. At one point I believe you could only find fiberglass reproductions. Cast were original Ford ones, now cast is available again. I think yours looks like a 69 Mustang version but it could be from a 70. It is Mustang though, not Torino. Like I said earlier don't just toss it. If it's not damaged you should be able to sell it and put the money toward an assembly you like.
Brian: You have to decide if you want to run an air cleaner that sits higher than the screen or not. If yes, then keep your screen and remove the shaker bit and get a new high performance air cleaner. You can trim the edge of the cut screen with pinch-welt trim. If you want to run an air cleaner that sits under the screen, that is a different research project to find an air cleaner that has a depressed base that allows such. You will then also have to look for either an original screen or you could attempt to find new screen material and have someone replace the original in the frame. As for the screen rattling, it looks like the side panels have been bent or pushed forward some such that the screen holes are not lining up with the side panels. They can be "manipulated" to get alignment. I used small bolts with wing nuts to allow for quick removal of the center screen when working there. There seem to be two schools of thought on the screen - the "all stock" purists and then those, like me, that bought a 3" K&N hi-flow air cleaner which sticks above the screen. But then my screen had already been cut by the PO so I didn't care.
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Everyone should watch this segment on picking air cleaners
I don’t run with the cover…
Everyone wants to see your engine and transaxle anyway!
Rocky
Those guys have a dream job testing stuff on the dyno.
@Alesora, no everything is fitting fine, it just extends past the bracket is fastens to, thus the 1/2 inch overhang, and not bolted down on that edge.
@Otis, yes, I'll hold on to it or put it on Ebay
@Panterapatt, thanks, that's helpful.