Belgian (or nearby) Pantera owners

Hi,
I've purchased parts from this guy www.jaeckel-partner.de in Hamburg. I found him helpful and knowledgeable.

This is a longer trip for you. This guy http://www.threepointfour.co.uk/index.htm does servicing and restoration, he also writes the club magazine for the UK De Tomaso Club.

There are also several US engine specialists in the UK.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by Rapier:
Hi,
I've purchased parts from this guy www.jaeckel-partner.de in Hamburg. I found him helpful and knowledgeable.

This is a longer trip for you. This guy http://www.threepointfour.co.uk/index.htm does servicing and restoration, he also writes the club magazine for the UK De Tomaso Club.

There are also several US engine specialists in the UK.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your reply.

Good to know there are at least some people around familiar with, or at least specialized (to some level) in, De Tomaso.

Browsing through the forum's member list, I found at least some owners less or more close-by to where I live. Looks like Vereeken is the one living closest to me, though he seems to spend just like me quite some time in the US too.

Anyway, I not longer feel alone now

Or you could try Patrick Hals in your country of Belgium. Patrick owns several Panteras, two of which he's raced at the Classic LeMans and will again this year.So he knows what breaks and how to get it fixed. <patrickhals@gmail.com>

Kid,

I've sent you a PM with a list of contacts.

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Originally posted by Bosswrench:
Or you could try Patrick Hals in your country of Belgium. Patrick owns several Panteras, two of which he's raced at the Classic LeMans and will again this year.So he knows what breaks and how to get it fixed. <patrickhals@gmail.com>

Oh, it looks like other than just chocolate and beer, we also have quite some Panteras in Belgium!

@ David - thanks for the pm - much appreciated!

Hi Pantera lovers,

i'm Van de Walle Norbert from Maldegem, Belgium and recently "bought" a Pantera GT5S from '85 ..... i write bought under "..." because it was more a deal : car collector was interested in my SRT10 Viper Truck with Roe Racing blower and my body off restored Corvette '70... himself has all models Pantera and just bought the GT5S Targa.. so "mine" now could go....myself was dreaming a FGT but a bit to expensive for a sunday toy ...or a GT40, tryed it but didn't fit into it ... to small... or me to big ??? following that story i naturally came up with a Pantera solution :-) i like to wrench on my cars , so a old school carb/distributor is my favorite and the Pantera has the GT heritage .... looks, mechanics, sound..... got my story right and love the car, this is a keeper !

Ofcourse i had to deal with some garage queens sickness .... first the alternator was down, i drove to SpaItalia needing 5 batteries ;-)
to keep ignition running ( fresh batterie max rev 4000 , ending after every 50 miles 2000 .... )

This solved i found the road keeping a disaster ! .... this couldn't be thrue ... so on the lift to found 3 of the 4 schocks completely gone... orderd new coilovers from Intrax and had a new car !

Now that the car was cornering good i realised that the tires , Yokohamas as "new", were from 2000... now i don't thrust 11 years old rubber.... so bought new Michelins TB15... again i had a new car , cornering and sticking to the road as glue ....

Then i felt the power was there but equal , not more between 4000 rpm to 6000 as from 2000 to 4000 ??? in the lower gears .... so i played a bit with the advance ( Unilite distributor giving 10 ° mechanical advance ) but no better results which made me think i was running lean once the secondaries open ( Edelbrock Thunder AVS 650 carb ) ... no jets availeble in Belgium, i drilled the secondary jets a bit wider and found now the car pulling more in the higher revs :-)

Next job is to install a A/F gauge to have a measure....and fuel pressure indication...

It's a 351 C with visual a Edelbrock performer intake ( 4V ) and a carb....but the heads are 2V i think as "2" is casted on the corners ....found among documents a Crane comp camshaft which i suppose is there....

Nice story and documented : it's chassis nr 9425 , first owner Caroll Shelby ! he drove it for 286 miles begin '86 to sell it with another 2 GT5S and speaking of another 2 not yet arrived in the US januari 86 .... it was order red with beige interior and still is... not surprizing as the car has 8000 miles.... of which we cannot be sure ofcourse but nowhere the cars shows more mileage !
( so it's the 50the GT5S made out of the 187 )

Very,very happy with the car and hope to may join among you here and learn alot .... sorry for my spelling ... just read beyond my errors please :-)

see you !
Norbert, aka Belgiumbarry

Hi Mr Norbert, or should I address you as Barry?

Anyways, welcome to the forum, and the DT community Don't worry about grammatical errors - in general, our English is way better than most of the others their Dutch

And yet again a new owner in BE. For being such a small country, we have plenty of DT cars... Maybe one day, we as BE owners should come together, and have some fun. Feel free to contact me PM wise, so we can - if you'd like to - meet once.

So, Intrax in NL was able to offer you shocks he...interesting.

Hi KID...yes, we could have small meeting after the holidays .....would like to meet other DT's .Know a Belgian FGT owner who bought a GT5S in the US which he will send to QM developments for some repairs.... perhaps we can go over there once to see his shop and some Panteras he owns ? It's near Kortrijk .

Yes, Intrax just hade made a set coilovers for a race Pantera when i called them .....so no problem, they make them in a few days ! They are the 1K2 system with 40 klicks schock adjustments ( in & rebound) and ofcourse all kinds of springs....i took 100 kg in front and 120 kg rear. For track use they proposed 140/160 kg... i installed them and they fit perfect ! Not knowing were to look i first contacted KW suspensions , but they asked 5 weeks delivery time !



mid-engines are cool but not so easy for carb tuning as one in front :-)


we are doing the paper work for Belgian registration but glad i can drive in the meantime further on his UK plates / insurance.

Hello, I also would like to say welcome to Pantera ownership. It is a very , very pretty car( mine looks like it so I also had some problem driving to Spa, was using more than 25 liters of fuel, seems my distributor is out of wack.Waiting for parts out of the US now.


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hi Suburb, if you mean 25l/100km that could be so without some malfunctions
should check mine but it will be in that range....Had a '70 Corvette with a Holley and driving it with spirit it used 29 l !

Panteras are also "heavy" cars...this is pic from my scales when i was dialing in the suspension ride height on the new Intrax.

Aha, I met that FGT owner recently, and he told me about you.

Btw, that picture looks like the cat just blew somebody out of his shoes – the result of a misfire perhaps…? And a Pantera heavy - was the picture of the scale taken with or without you under the decklid?

We could try to arrange some sort of small BE meeting, but at least some of the by me known Belgian owners, are pretty busy people, having trouble finding an open spot in their agenda – me being one of them...

yes, gotta love a BE meeting ! let's do some asking around and see .... perhaps end august -begin september somewhere ?

You can count me in with great pleasure if I am around !

I'm game

Hi Barry, the other set of intrax were made for my Pantera!
How are they working for you? I let Henk set up the car as he thought that was the best way to do it. My car is a full trackcar, with wide slicktyres. The car turned out to be very lively ( agrressief ) and far better then before, but a real lot of understeer, and it ripped my tyres to pieces in a couple of laps. Now I have set up the car as we had before, and the shocks are working perfect. An expencive but real good product.
To bad I can't ride my pantera on the road, otherwise I could have join you guy's on your trip. Or you all have to make the trip to Zandvoort

Arno

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Originally posted by Dago:
Hi Barry, the other set of intrax were made for my Pantera!
How are they working for you? I let Henk set up the car as he thought that was the best way to do it. My car is a full trackcar, with wide slicktyres. The car turned out to be very lively ( agrressief ) and far better then before, but a real lot of understeer, and it ripped my tyres to pieces in a couple of laps. Now I have set up the car as we had before, and the shocks are working perfect. An expencive but real good product.
To bad I can't ride my pantera on the road, otherwise I could have join you guy's on your trip. Or you all have to make the trip to Zandvoort

Arno

hello Arno,

just some road miles on the Intrax... but very pleased ! still have to figure out the right coils and shock install... now 100/120 kg coils and midrange shock klicks.... yes, pitty, i know... one changes so much on a "road" car to track use .. it becomes no more possible for tech inspection... i have 2 track Porsches 928 in the same condition One is on O-plates for "maybe" historic rallys but i know, if i get "cought" on the road and forced tech inspection i will lose the plates and condamned to only track use.....

Yes, it is a pitty, We are not allowed to modify anything. So for me I can make the car full track or original. No way I can drive him on the road.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

If we want to go to qm developments we'llnneed to go next weekend. My pantera will be finished next week