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... Boy talk about being 20 thousand years too late to get involed in a discussion about the wheels on my car ... haha!

Ive only just joined and have never been on any forum before.

There are so many awesome pics of every one's panteras on here ... cool!

With regard to the wheels on my car, i wanted to do a GT-4 build and have the widest wheels possible but also i guess have the same width wheels as the factory GR-4 but with bigger diameter (to be able to get tyres easier)

Anyway, there were no off-the-shelf that big so had to get 18"x14" rears and 16"x9.5" fronts made (in my case, i like the Pantera to look little and low in the front thats why i went the 16's) it also gave it a raked hot-rod look.

I got standard Hall Pantera GT-4 fiberglass flares, but when i worked out the wheel offset, i later realised that i stuffed up the measurement after we bolted them on! ... they were too deep dish so therefore i had to widen both flares at the top by 1-1/2" each, (but the overall width of flare at top of tyre level did not increase quite by that much).

Anyway all this stuff-up resulted in a (accidental) really tuff look, very deep dish wheel and probably ended up with the widest Pantera around haha ...

The 14" rear rim width was a little too wide, it means that only 345 minimum tyres can fit and they are stretched to their limit and really hard to get now too.

By the way, I just sold that Pantera!! - i thought i never would, wish i still had it Frowner ... but am building another GT-4, its also black at the moment but am considering a color change ... see it at http://wildpantera.com

This time i will get the same wheels made but probably 18"x13.5" and 17"x9" so i can fit 335's Probably go brushed alum, might try adding some black to the wheel???

Laslo
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Ive only just joined and have never been on any forum before.

Well Laslo, we are glad you are now here. Smiler

Surely your ears were burning when your car came out in the P.I. magazine. Much discussion. I, along with others, really liked that way that car came together.

While my 2511 is a stock bodied car (I highly prefer that over the wide-bodies), I've always had a second-lusting for a GRP 4 body, and yours had just the right rake and proportions.

If you stick around this forum, I think you'll find us to be having a good time and sharing and helping each of us to more easily keep maintaining, and improving, our cars.

And in Alejandro's Neighborhood Pub, we toss away the car-talk and just have some good times, too.

Welcome!

Larry - Did your car stay in Oz, or perhaps come to the States where we might see it in person?
Hi Laslo,

You've got to tell us why you sold the black GT4 and are building another. What did you learn on the first GT4 that you would change on the latest build?

Also, what tire size and rims are you going with this time around? Wilkinson is doing my car in California, and we went with 19 inch 10 spokes in the rear and 18 inch 10 spokes on the front. As the car has steel flares going on, modifications were going to happen anyway, so..... why not?

Anyway, I did take a look at your website and your third car is coming along nicely. I will follow your progress; would love to know more details about your build and when you think it will be put together.

Cheers,

Mark
Thanks guy's!

Only sold the GR-4 (traded it for the project car) to fund the hemi-challenger and hemi-cuda builds ... anyway, this GT-4 will be even better (the bodywork and paint is incredible)but i gotta finish the mopars first and also house renovations ... aarrrgghhhh!!, so unfortunately the new Pantera is going to sit there like that for a long time Frowner

Anyway, gotta figure out how the hell these things go back together ... haha! *laughs nervously* and will need to source some new parts and get some stuff made along the way.

The first (red) Pantera was 1971 #1217, the black GR-4 was 1971 #2059 and this new one is a 1974 #6943, it has a new engine build with edelbrock aluminium heads a re-built gearbox and lot of other new bits

Havent decided 100% on how this new car will look, maybe re-paint red/black and have brushed wheels and make it look closer to the factory GT-4?

Cant wait to check out all your cars some more ...

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Hiya!

The flares on the new car are also fiberglass hall pantera flares (unmodified this time), im gonna have to be careful when i get my next wheels made so i dont stuff-up the offset this time ... !! (what sizes and offsets can you get with off-the-shelf ten spoke wheels nowadays?)

(cant wait to learn stuff about panteras off ya'all, im gonna need to know how this goes back together)

you can see the mopars on my website (The challenger is almost finished and the cuda is getting assembled):
http://wildpantera.com

these new tyres look cool but are really soft (and not high speed rated), they are BF Goodrich G-Force drag radial 345/30/18s and look great on a mucle car (you can also see the new flare here) ... you will notice on my previous GT-4 the top of the rear flare sits higher than the unmodified one, this happened because i widened it (this also possibly gave the car the appearance to be lower coz the flare sat higher up the bodywork)

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Did your car stay in Oz, or perhaps come to the States where we might see it in person?

STAYED HERE IN OZ, I WONT EVEN GET TO SEE IT, ITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OUTBACK DESERT ... LOL!


You've got to tell us why you sold the black GT4 and are building another. What did you learn on the first GT4 that you would change on the latest build?

DIDNT WANT TO SELL IT, JUST NEEDED MONEY FOR MY OTHER CARS, ANYWAY, IT WORKED OUT GOOD COZ I TRADED IT FOR THE NEW ONE AND IT WILL BE EVEN BETTER BY THE TIME ITS FINISHED AS IT WAS A BARE METAL RESTO. WILL TRY AND SORT OUT A FEW MORE THINGS THIS TIME, TRY AND SET IT UP SO AS NOT TO FLOG OUT REAR AXLES/BEARINGS AS MUCH AND ALSO IMPROVE BUMP STEER IF POSSIBLE?


Also, what tire size and rims are you going with this time around? Wilkinson is doing my car in California, and we went with 19 inch 10 spokes in the rear and 18 inch 10 spokes on the front.

PROBABLY 18x13.5" AND 17x9" STILL WANT IT TO BE AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE BUT TO BE ABLE TO USE 335 TYRES. HEY, WHERE CAN I SEE MORE SHOTS OF YOUR GR-4 CAR, HOW WIDE ARE YOUR 19'S AND 18'S??


I would love to know more about the engine for it - cam specs., etc.

AS SOON AS I FIND OUT, WILL POST IT, IT GOT BIULT BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER ...


Can't wait to see what you do with this one. Maybe a little more radical or less?

IM GOING TO HAVE TO TOP THE LAST ONE AGAIN, ITS GOING TO BE HARD - SO WILL HAVE TO SEE, IVE GOT MANY IDEAS IN MY HEAD, IT WILL BE REALLY COOL AND JAW DROPPING ... JUST NEED MORE MONEY!!! ... (EVERY ONES LIFE STORY I GUESS? ... LOL!!)


Show us the Mopars, Big love for Challengers and Cudas here

HAHA, ME TOO, PROB ONE REASON I DECIDED TO SELL PANTERA IS COZ I LOVE THEM SO MUCH AND THOUGHT IVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT WITH PANTERAS AND TIME TO MOVE ONTO OTHER CARS IE: US MUSCLE, MOPARS IN PARTICULAR, BUT I WAS WRONG, DONT EVER WANT TO BE WITHOUT A PANTERA, THIS THING GOT SO MANY LOOKS, IT WAS INSANE ...


Welcome aboard mate. -G

HIYA GEORGE, LONG TIME NO-SPEAK!!
PROBABLY 18x13.5" AND 17x9" STILL WANT IT TO BE AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE BUT TO BE ABLE TO USE 335 TYRES. HEY, WHERE CAN I SEE MORE SHOTS OF YOUR GR-4 CAR, HOW WIDE ARE YOUR 19'S AND 18'S??

I don't have that many shots of my car online, but there is the POCA website that has some photos of my car on it. If you would like to see more, just let me know and I'll see what I have for photos. Here is the link to the POCA website:

1974 Pantera GT

I'll have to look again -- but I believe the rears are Pirelli 345 35 19's and the fronts I really cannot remember, but I will take a look and get back with that.

I've got a 71 Hemi Cuda convertible clone with all the goodies (i.e. rubber bumpers, AM/FM Thumbwheel radio (it does work), rallye gauges (these all work too), power steering, power disc front brakes, manual 4 speed, 4.10 Dana rear). I do understand the addiction with the Mopar thing. I was even thinking about getting a 1968 440 GTX convertible with a manual 4 speed and Dana rear end. But the insanity had to stop with one Mopar. My car is all stock except for the addition of factory cruise control and A/C. I know, I know, it is a convertible and the 426 motors never would have had these, but that is how I purchased this thing. The crazy thing is it all looks factory from the 1971 model year. The color is Curious Yellow with the large black billboard (along with a matte black shaker to go with the billboards) on the rear quarters as well as a black vinyl interior. Good factory NOS parts are really hard to come by. The reproduction stuff just does not fit as well as the original stuff.

Anyway, the Challenger looks great and you'll have great fun with it. I have the stock 15 inch wheels and tire sizes on my car, so I put the cheapest rubber I can find on the rear. They just get ripped up so bad it just does not pay to put anything good on the back end. When the kids ask if I can squeal the tires the correct answer is, "... oh yea..."

Your 1970 Cuda looks like it will be a lot of fun too. Are you doing any reinforcing of the body? Anyway, it looks great too and you'll have loads of fun. I don't know what is more rare in OZ, the Mopars, or the DeTomasos? One thing has to be said of both marques, they definitely did more with less. I guess that is why I like both of them, I am always a sucker for the underdog.

Cheers,

Mark
Mark, my dream car is a 71 hemi-cuda convertible clone!! (both my mopars are clones too as you would have guessed but both are factory big block 383 cars ... real RT and cuda!)

Would love to see some pics of ya convertible sometime, but we probably better talk about our love for mopars over email, not sure if we will get in trouble doing it on this forum coz its all about our other dream car, the Pantera here ... haha!

Would like to see some closer pics of your Pantera rims too later when you get time to find em. thanks
Hi Laslo,

I sent you an e-mail to your netscape.net address from the Wild Pantera site. If this is not correct, just PM me on this site.

The tire sizes for the rear are Pirelli PZero Corsa Asimmetrico 345/35ZR-19 and the fronts are Pirelli PZero Corsa 285/30ZR-18. Sorry I do not have any photos here, but my avatar has those rims and wheels on it, but it is not the best photo.

Michael, those rims and tires are sick -- I love it!

Mark
Michael (Cyboman): - your GT5-S is unreal mate!!! ... i wanna see more pics! ive always loved the GT5-S bodywork, a lot of the 5-S cars sit really good and the wheels fill out the guards nice.

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btw the trooper to the right (as the story goes) was waiting for Laslo to leave doing a burn out so he could make his day Wink:

HAHA, THEY HAVE CAUGHT ME MANY TIMES SINCE DOING DUMBASS SH*T ... LOL!
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This time i will get the same wheels made but probably 18"x13.5" and 17"x9" so i can fit 335's Probably go brushed alum, might try adding some black to the wheel???

Hi Laslo. Welcome to the forum.
Your GR4 was the drive to get me to convert mine.
Didn't you order your wheels before installing the flares? I've read that the bodywork is suppose to be worked around the wheels?
Also, do you have your A-arms modified for extra caster on your cars? I just had mine done by Johnny Woods.Apparently, very difficult to drive at speed with such wide tires and not enough caster.
Will
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