Has anyone done durabilaty testing on these or can definately state to stay away from them because they are a disaster waiting to happen or what? The sure look nice.
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Those look nice!
I had the Hall aluminum A-arms and uprights on my last car and ran it at the track. I'd say they were durable and adjustable, this is an added benefit for alignments.
But bring your Mastercard or Visa they aren't cheap!
I had the Hall aluminum A-arms and uprights on my last car and ran it at the track. I'd say they were durable and adjustable, this is an added benefit for alignments.
But bring your Mastercard or Visa they aren't cheap!
I'm willing to test the P.I. units at the Las Vegas track event for durability I will even do the install on my car for free. 
Mark M, you're a stand up guy!
Mark M, did they mention the crash testing to you yet?
quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Mark M, did they mention the crash testing to you yet?
lol................
No intentional crash testing for me!
But I have been know to go in real tight circles and end up facing the wrong way.
But I have been know to go in real tight circles and end up facing the wrong way.
Besides looks, Its adjustable and the ball joints are a common size here in the US
Roland, if I remember your full set of balljoints cost $1130 a set plus shipping from Germany.
So in essence, PI is offering fully adjustable suspension arms for all four corners for under $3000 which happen to use off the shelf, made in the USA, ball joints.
So in essence, PI is offering fully adjustable suspension arms for all four corners for under $3000 which happen to use off the shelf, made in the USA, ball joints.
Its bling guys. I'm not stepping on toes by saying that am I? Come on. Polished billet aluminum suspension? That's bling, pure and simple.
It's ok if somebody wants bling! There's room amongst us for the customizers & show car guys. Nobody should have to apologize because they want bling on their car. I don't think less of somebody because they have bling suspesion. Its not for me, but that's just me, I don't expect everybody to be like me. OH God no, I don't want anybody to be like me, come to think of it!
If you're a racer, you'll want control arms of chrome moly or titanium tubing, TIG welded or brazed. Light & strong. But those aren't available from any vendors, only the bling. At least the bling is adjustable.
Your friend on the DTBB, George
It's ok if somebody wants bling! There's room amongst us for the customizers & show car guys. Nobody should have to apologize because they want bling on their car. I don't think less of somebody because they have bling suspesion. Its not for me, but that's just me, I don't expect everybody to be like me. OH God no, I don't want anybody to be like me, come to think of it!
If you're a racer, you'll want control arms of chrome moly or titanium tubing, TIG welded or brazed. Light & strong. But those aren't available from any vendors, only the bling. At least the bling is adjustable.
Your friend on the DTBB, George
George,
I happen to think those are beautiful pieces. I'm glad and thankful the vendors offer these options to us. Granted they're not for everybody.
Roland,
I think that you, as a vendor, show poor taste criticizing and denigrating another vendor's offerings. Most of us know you purchased a huge amount of original parts when the factory closed, and you try to peddle them on this site. No problem with that... but I think you can show a little more class in doing so.
FWIW...
I happen to think those are beautiful pieces. I'm glad and thankful the vendors offer these options to us. Granted they're not for everybody.
Roland,
I think that you, as a vendor, show poor taste criticizing and denigrating another vendor's offerings. Most of us know you purchased a huge amount of original parts when the factory closed, and you try to peddle them on this site. No problem with that... but I think you can show a little more class in doing so.
FWIW...
I too think they are very neat and cool...unless they are the anodized purple ones, yuck!
And I thought we decided they weigh as much as the stock steel ones, so there is no performance benefit.
Jeff
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Jeff
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Good point on the fine threads, tie rod and other steering parts always use fine thread for adjustment.
Roland
I have to say, its a pleasure having you here as a vendor, and your advise is well takin, I agree, those are for trailer queens. Put me in a car with those babies and all you will see is shavings. I prefer mild steel arms either factory or tubular. These cars are made to drive hard. DT was a bright individual with a wealthy wife. All the crying and complaining about the price of ball joints is not your fault. I'm sure in the original design DT could have used some off the shelf parts of another car co. But then this car would have been called an AMC. The lower aluminum arms are not for my taste. Why do we need to get personal here. we all have our opinions.
I have to say, its a pleasure having you here as a vendor, and your advise is well takin, I agree, those are for trailer queens. Put me in a car with those babies and all you will see is shavings. I prefer mild steel arms either factory or tubular. These cars are made to drive hard. DT was a bright individual with a wealthy wife. All the crying and complaining about the price of ball joints is not your fault. I'm sure in the original design DT could have used some off the shelf parts of another car co. But then this car would have been called an AMC. The lower aluminum arms are not for my taste. Why do we need to get personal here. we all have our opinions.
i have run this setup @ LVMS, ThunderHill and sears with great success. Check out my website for more info...
www.jacobsracing.com click on the 1972 pantera link on the left.
www.jacobsracing.com click on the 1972 pantera link on the left.
Hey Greg,
What have you done to your website? There's a huge Jacobs Racing logo with the date that comes up and hides the underlying Pantera links before you can click on them.
Julian
What have you done to your website? There's a huge Jacobs Racing logo with the date that comes up and hides the underlying Pantera links before you can click on them.
Julian
Since Wilkenson has been the only friendly advice I have gotten from a vendor so far..PI did not want to give me backspacing should I decide to go with another brand or wheels (non campy)and Hall's Wife wanted to sell me every other part in the book...and sice these are made right down the street, if I needor want apair I 'll get em locally. it seems like the most expensive part of pantera ownership is the after market being mopopolised by three to four vendors. Wilkenson has the best prices on replacement parts by a long shot so far. and his balljont set is only $500 now and the suspension busings are around $150 for the whole set or $18 each. he took the time to tlak to me and that goes a long way with me.
Ryan
Ryan
I bought my racecar with Hall's billet A-arms. Cruel part is that they'd been powdercoated gray. No bling!
Roland: Keep supporting the Pantera community as you've done so well.
Ryan: I unconditionally love ALL the vendors and one day you will too.
Matt Merritt
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Roland: Keep supporting the Pantera community as you've done so well.
Ryan: I unconditionally love ALL the vendors and one day you will too.
Matt Merritt
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quote:it seems like the most expensive part of pantera ownership is the after market being mopopolised by three to four vendors.
Funny, that is exactly the reason I think owning a Pantera is so cheap! You should see what happens when you want to buy spares for your Maserati Bora, or better yet, your ISO Griffo...
quote:Originally posted by Mark Charlton:quote:it seems like the most expensive part of pantera ownership is the after market being mopopolised by three to four vendors.
Funny, that is exactly the reason I think owning a Pantera is so cheap! You should see what happens when you want to buy spares for your Maserati Bora, or better yet, your ISO Griffo...
I know what you mean. I hate when that happens
I have the polished billet A-arms, carriers etc., from Hall on my Car. It was a Hall Super Pantera. I had it on the track at Vegas and it handled great and they look nice too. I realize that polished aluminum is not everyones thing, but I like it.