eBay Pantera

Oh,
I forgot to mention. It shows some rust.

I volunteered parts from my old half shafts to help get it on the road. The car was completely disassembled and in numerous boxes when it was found by the owner. He assembled it in his driveway (in the winter) without any manuals and got it running. It was pretty neat to see it actually on the road and running after spending many years of storage in a boat loft.

Mike

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Is this "project" even worth the current bid ?

Yes, for the right person. It is complete, it runs, it has disclosed issues. It may have more rust than shown or known, but again, the right person can get a Pantera at a good price.

How I wish I had the funds to collect all these poor neglected cars and then have my hired mechanics restore them, hacking and stealing as needed from totally lost donor cars. Alas, Jay Leno I am not.

Maybe in four years when I retire ...yea, with two kids in college, that ain't goin to happen.

Larry

Please forgive me, but I disagree. That car is way too rusty to do anything but part it out. It's not like it's the last 250GTO or something, there are lots of Panteras around that won't require $20K in rust repair. And any part of the frame that is not replaced will still be pock marked and crusty. It'll never be any good. -Steve

Awwww shucks Steve.....

Nuttin' there a little bondo can't fix!

cowboy from hell

I agree with Mike. I respect what the current owner has done and to have another Pantera saved from final death.

My point is cost of the final resto vs. just buying a car that has been restored with less of a rust factor. That door jamb is the worst I have seen. And who knows about the rest of the car ? I can not see how it will ever be a good purchase.

This car was listed several months ago by the same seller I believe. If memory serves the bids ended around $15K and the reserve was not met (obviously). Now he may have lowered the reserve but even he doesn't think it will sell which means he is not motivated.

I would have to agree with Steve. I don't believe this car has a realistic reserve price to justify the end result. There isn't a square inch of this car that does not need attention of some sort. Whole new interior, paint, body work, and of course there is visable rust (bad) which means how much more is there that is not visible? Lets say you can get it for $15k. And assume that the engine and ZF are as good as he says. Rust repair=$8k, body work=$3.5k, paint=$4k, interior=$2k. Thats an additional $17.5k (I believe that most would agree those are very conservative estimates )Total $32.5k. That is a lot of assuming and assumes you have no other gremlins (its hard to believe a car this abused has a well functioning ZF; add another $5k). If you look around there are cars that need very little work for mid thirties.

It would be fun, for the right price, of that there is no doubt and like beauty the worth of the completed car is the eye of the beholder.

It is too bad. It looks to be an authentic Euro-GTS. If he would take less for it, I could use it as a parts car.
EDIT: Nope I was wrong. It is a euro car but it isn't a GTS. So I guess I won't buy it after all. Now my wife won't be killing me. I was worried there for a minute. That was a close call. I need to stop looking at cars for sale page before I get myself into real trouble.

That rust seems to be accident damage gone bad.
I'd have it on the road within a week - who cares what the paint looks like?

i have been watching it. he is about 5 or so hours drive from me one way. i would have thought it could be had for around $10k. otherwise he is dreaming. i know where a cheap Lambo Jalpa is as well as a beater 308 Ferrari. i would buy them first and have a nice Pantera to drive while i sorted them out!

I’ve seen the car up close and I think it is pretty neat. We need a few rat rods to fill out the spectrum of Panteras. The fact that he could assemble it without manuals is amazing.

Mike

I absolutely agree with Mike.

As Steve wrote, the car is too far gone. So why not a Pantera Rat Rod! Let this Italian mistress have one last fling before she's sent to the old folks home. It can't possibly hurt anything.

cowboy from hell

And the driver door latch area is sound enough that the door stays shut without needing a bungee cord.

Mike

Not, that I am a lot younger than Geo & Mike. But please define a "Rat Rod" or in this case Pantera. Is it just a rusty dented bucket of crap that goes like hell?

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
Not, that I am a lot younger than Geo & Mike. But please define a "Rat Rod" or in this case Pantera. Is it just a rusty dented bucket of crap that goes like hell?

Yeah thats pretty much it......


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