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Jerry, I have foud a number stamped on mine, now it isn't in the normal Ford location (behind block on driver's side) but rather on top rear center of block behind intake. Still haven't checked other cars, please advise if you find info on yours.

Denis

Denis I am attaching photos of the Auto lite carb from 1126 .It is original equip on Mangustas. Mine is totally rebuilt and blueprinted. Jerry

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Denis the design of the 4 barrel Auto lite carb, original to Mangusta was sold by Ford to Holley who improved it and sold it as a Holley invention. Google wikipedia and find autolite carb to get more info than you want to know. History: Ford Autolite sold to Holley copied and improved by Demon copied and improved by various tuners.Weve got the real deal.Jerry

> Denis the design of the 4 barrel Auto lite carb, original to Mangusta was
> sold by Ford to Holley who improved it and sold it as a Holley invention.

No. Though the magazine articles of the period list the Mangusta as
being equipped with an Autolite 4 barrel, the carb pictured is a
Motorcraft 4300 square bore carb. Ford originally equipped the 289
with an Autolite 4100 4 barrel carb but the '67-'68 J-code 302 came
equipped with a 441 CFM Motorcraft 4300, as shown in your picture.
The Motorcraft 4300 was also used on '70 to '71 351C's, though in a
600 CFM size. A 715 CFM spread bore version was also introduced in
1971 and was used on subsequent 351C-4V engines. The Motorcraft 4300
series carbs share nothing in common with the Holley 4150/4160 and
related tuner carbs. The Autolite 4100 is well liked as a simple
and reliable carb. The 4300 is not as well liked.

Ford did develop the annular boosters often used in Holley and tuner
carbs. These were introduced in the Autolite 4100. Ford also had
special versions of Holley carbs such as the 735 CFM 4150 used in
428 CJ applications. That Holley used Ford-designed skirted truck
boosters. There were also later Ford Holley 4180's with annular
boosters.

Holley hired the designer of the Autolite 4100 to design a new carb,
the Holley 4010 (and 4011 spread bore) that was essentially an Autolite
4100 that used Holley tuning parts. However, they subsequently dropped
the carb and later sold the design to Summit Racing which produces the
carb in China and sells it through their speed shop catalog.

Dan Jones

Hello Dan Thanks for the data. I will have to examine my carb in more detail. I would bet it is the original carb to 8 MA1126 as it does have the tube down to the exhaust temp port and all the previous owners swear the engine/carb was not changed. I investigated the auto lite carb and the pictures look just like my carb. So when I get back down to Tempe next week I will examine it further.Jerry

Jerry,

What is the number on the little tag that is bolted to the top of the carb???? THAT will tell you what the original part number and application was.....

You posted a beautiful picture of the top of the tag......but ya can't see squat for the numbers!

I'm gonna guess that it is a C9ZE-xxxx number based upon the type of throttle linkage on it. I would guess that C8OE or C8ZE, C9OE or C9ZE, and D0OE and perhaps D0ZE carbs could also be present on a Goose since production was from 1968 to 1970.

Any engine with all the smog air pump plumbing will most likely be a 1968 engine. Without it, a 1969 or 70 engine.

The small aluminum tag on the intake, if still present, can be looked up in the Ford Parts Books, which I have, to tell you EXACTLY what the application was for!!!

Offhand, it would be a stick shift 4V engine. Used most often in Mustang/Cougar/Fairlane....

Steve

here are more detailed photos of the tag on the (yes it is an Autolite)carburator. Also is a photo of the tag on the intake. Jerry

Photo of the tag on the intake. Jerry

Jerry,

D0PF indicates a replacement carb. D=1970's (decade) 0=70 (specific year) and P indicates parts system. F=fuel stuff......AF is a particular revision. 0L23 could be 1970, November 23rd when it was produced.

The fact that it says Autolite on the tag means it was replaced VERY early! Motorcraft appears on tags in 71-72 timeframe....

I would have expected a C8ZF-xx tag on an original carburator, as it would have been the same carb found on a stick shift 1968/69 Mustang with a 302-4V (non-Boss).

I wouldn't be too upset.....with the fact that it isn't original. It is still exactly the same type carb. NO ONE would know different until they lift the air cleaner and check out this little tag!


As for the engine tag, you can see 302 for displacement, C is the plant code, 68 for year, 1 for Change level(US built). I believe the 8-G indicates 68, July as month of production.

The 283-J is an engine code that you will find in the Ford parts books, at the beginning of the engine pages in the Master Parts Catalog.

283 lists a 302 Ford carb 4-barrel (as opposed to a Holley 4V) with warranty plate code "J". This J appears in the VIN in the 5th digit I believe in Mustangs Cougars, etc. So when someone says I have a 68 J-code Mustang, there was an Autolite 4V equipped 302 in their car originally!

So, that is what I can tell you about that!
Ciao!
Steve

Great pics and great info guys. Thanks!


Jay (#600)