Mangusta #8MA1074 - for sale in Michigan (Craig's List)

I have seen this listed months ago.  Either it didn't sell yet or it is being flipped.

You can knock $12 off the price for the dings in the front of the hood, $34 off for the drivers fender damage, and $76 for the damage on the roof and quarter window.  That will be harder to fix.  So the guy will probably let it go for $248,850.

Lucky guy to have one of those.

Anyway - TO ME it seems unmolested - but what do I know - I don't have a Goose.  But someone ought to save off those pictures for posterity in support of original restorations.

Thanks for posting this up, so us "hoi-polloi" can drool over it.

Rocky

Not really un-molested, I know the seller said he had extra boxes of parts, but it is missing the correct intake, jackshaft, bell housing has been amputated and an external fuel pump has been installed. Certainly a good start compared to the Gullwing car.

engine #201 ! And he does have the tool bag...Original headers/mufflers/(most) hangers, valve covers, throttle bracket and oil pan...Even kept the smog stuff (that most people in the 70's threw out as though it were Stasi eavesdropping equipt...Lee

rocky posted:

… someone ought to save off those pictures for posterity in support of original restorations ...

Rocky

Whenever a "Look what I found" comes up, the first thing I do is consider saving the photos for posterity. But posterity will need to know the VIN so they can do a search. Without the VIN its an unknown vehicle … that's the bailiwick of Mr. Melton and associates.

Craigslist ads, auction house pages, eBay ads … all that stuff is temporary. In order to save information about De Tomaso cars I invite and encourage everyone to download those photos here because the information at the links will eventually disappear.

I also encourage everyone to flood the titles of topics with VIN numbers and chassis numbers. It serves posterity.

Finally I hope this 'Goose goes to a loving home. I hope the new owner will be a forum member too.

See here to get pictures...even if just screen scrapes. Very few opportunities to see original cars so naked...note the yellow and red inspection marks still present in the engine bay (and I'm very curious if the bolts under the red inspection marks were actually zinc plated, the ones here and those on 8ma1046 had no clear sign of plating...)

https://carsanddogs1970.zenfolio.com/1970mangusta

Kind of an interesting place to take the photos.  Regardless, really good start to having a nice Goose.

Wow, props for taking that many pics.

I didn't see the jackshaft in there...  or missing frunk panels, but it looks like he has most of the parts there. 

I'm still wondering how on earth he mounted the alternator up front, those pulley fins are a fraction of an inch from the bulkhead.

it needs a lot, but certainly worth restoring if he adjusts the price.

if you go up a level in his album he has a total of 58 cars!

https://carsanddogs1970.zenfolio.com/f574526459

he also has it on eBay for $10k less

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-...7:g:L2AAAOSwEp5cH5vE

MH

rocky posted:

… TO ME it seems unmolested …

Ridden hard and put away wet.

Isn't that what these cars were for?   (the ridden hard part, anyway)….

...Was lucky to be in SFO east bay and see this car, about 5 minutes walk from Fantasy Junction.  The car was hidden inside a garage (a wall was built so that nobody could see the car when the garage door was open) for 35 years, so in some ways the car is remarkably a survivor with no restoration. Except for the jackshaft, alternator, original carb, headlight lever, trunk floor, and spare wheel, most pieces are there--the brake handle, tool bag (with lug wrench, no other tools); all the heater and AC pieces, the original intake/valve covers/oil pan, package tray, original headers and exhaust, jack handle (no jack or extension), smog equipment, original carb copper lines, spare tie down, carb choke riser... Seats need recovering, the rearview mirror was gone, the defroster vents are gone- but the interior otherwise is very good, and all carpets actually quite good.  Body is actually very good, except for the rash around the front spoiler and left side hood no signs of traumatic history.. Yeah, of course a 50 year old car could always enjoy $100k for a complete restoration, but this could be a very good car with a lot less invested.

   A couple of details on the car, note the weatherstripping on the forward of the engine covers...Also, an interesting black paint spot on the forwards of the doors. 

   Trivial things; Distributor date coded 9M4, AC compressor dated E-69. Headlight cables 1.82 and 2.45meters long, Cast iron 3-piston girlings front and rear. AC condenser meant for my car (marked '76'! btw, mine is marked '28). 

 Just a matter of time until this car finds a good home...The pair who have the car will Not restore it--Lee   

Can you share the chassis number?

Provamo has it listed as 8ma1074...   Lucky for me, since this is the car directly before mine, same colors, 2 headlight car, was interesting to see details...His wheels may have been aluminum (at least, they were nicely polished), mine are mag.  And he has the leather wrapped Ferrero, mine (like very few geese) is wood without the leather wrap.

I've got the Craig's list pictures and will add them to this topic. And I'll move this topic to the individual De Tomaso info forum.

Lee, watching from the sidelines, I've noticed you guys working together here are developing a huge knowledge base. Bravo.

Just know that Debbie and I are here to help in any way we can.

...some details, I wonder are best ignored But on '1074, I thought some of the paint lines were interesting...I know there are precious few Geese with original paint, so knowing if the 'blackout' is correct here or not is still a fond guess. But in addition to that stripe on the door edge, note the blackout on the sides of the spine (picture above), and along the perimeter of the bulkhead/roof edge, halfway thru the engine cover latches, and halfway (!) around the perimeter of the trunk. '1074 had definitely been topped out after the factory (there was a smudge of red paint on the windshield rubber). 

  From what I can tell, the factory pretty much nuked the car with body color and then followed up with undercoating (esp, the trunk under the felt was painted body color). Interior of the engine covers was not body-color, only undercoated, and interior only caught some overspray)... I've seen plenty of Geese blacken out the interior of the spine (and looked at original pictures to believe the interior was body color). The details here might be a bit obsessive for most owners...and would be interested if anybody with a very original car has the same markings.  

Oh, while on the topic...Years ago I posted pictures on '1046 that looked like someone had taken a ball-peen hammer to the fender,  https://pantera.infopop.cc/top...otos-to-share?page=2  below is a picture that better shows these (on the passenger side fender, rightmost in the pic, in front of the mirror). These are the factory spot welds and suggest original paint (since any self-respecting body guy will of course use filler...!). Unfortunately, with an all-black car, much harder to answer the question of paint lines...Lee

LEEA,

Thanks for all the detail. Sadly my Goose (596) was repainted in the early 1990's so I can't offer any insights on original paint details. As I'm sure you are aware, the uneven fenders are actually considered correct on a Goose. Some guys think it's caused by mirrors being attached there at some point in time. However I believe the real cause was part of the original construction of the cars. The example you posted is the worst I have come across so far.

Thanks

-Ryan

…Once explained, I think the golf-ball-bumps are pretty cool--that the quality of welding and fit at Ghia was so high. Filler is used on the car, but only lead (not plastic) and as I remember on 1076,  especially around the area around the lower rear door opening. But other seams (like the front and rear valances) even the welds are a bit hard to find---almost seamless tie-in. 

 Btw, the oldest color picture I've seen of the Mangusta is in the  rear view of the car with the engine covers up in the April 1969 Road and Track...and I don't think its a shadow, it really appears that the engine cover latch areas are blackened out as '1074 is now...Lee

Oh, another vote on the blackout paint...This was the US car in England on Ebay maybe 2 years ago...esp, note the line thru the hinge latches, on the side of the spine, and around the rear bulkhead...Lee