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Ok, here is my dilemma........

My car had Mindtrains old glasspack style exhaust on it. When owned by the previous owner, one of them cracked. He was told by someone that the exhaust on the car was a Hall Big-Bore system. He found 1 used big-bore muffler and had someone weld that in place of the cracked muff. The exhaust system (both sides) was very poorly done, and the hangers are broken and the pipes are bent in places that shouldn't be bent. I was originally going to have an exhaust shop re-do the exhaust pipes from the headers to the mufflers and keep the ones that are on there, but when I talked to them and told them they were actually two different "brands" of mufflers, they stated that it was bad to have this, and they would recommend removing them and installed a new pair of muffs. They said they look alike on the outside, but who knows what the inside looks like. I have known these guys for years and they have never done me wrong.

I LOVE the sound of the glasspacks. It is very agressive at idle, and screams while accelerating. I want an exhaust that has this level of sound, or even more. The shop recommended either Borla or Flowmaster (they said they would go with Borla if it was them). I am not sure what I should do.

Is using the different mufflers bad? I wonder if the design is exactly the same? The only difference in outward appearance is the Mindtrain has polished ends and the Halls are black. I spoke with Hall on 2 occasions, and they tell me that they have never put polished tips on any of their systems. They are all black.

Any ideas?
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Hmmm, neither one of those look like mine. I thought mine were big bores but apparently not. I wonder what it is I do have then? Those both look like they are enough alike that I doubt very much it hurt anything to run them that way. But now you have me wondering what it is I have???
I've got Mindtrain on my car. I'm the only one in DFW that I know of that has them. I've seen lots of Big Bore's. Your picture labeling looks correct to me. Only difference from mine is the tips (still chome, just a different style--mine are longer and point more up). BTW, ignoring cost, I'll pick Mindtrain over Big Bore anyday.
Well, I just got off the phone with the man himself, Fred Matsumoto (a very nice gentleman, BTW). He said that his mufflers and Halls Big-Bores are very similar, the main difference between their exhaust systems is the header design and flow. He is sending me a flyer that was published a long time ago comparing his system with Halls (and others I think). Maybe I will scan it and post it.

Any way, the headers I have on the car are from Mindtrain, so I might just keep these mufflers on and clean them up and put matching tips on them.

BTW, he does have ONE (1) set of his muffler system left. After this one is sold, there will be no more. I was very tempted to buy it, but just don't have the funds right now.
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Originally posted by RRS:
Those are Hall Big Bore mufflers you have. You may have the Mind Train Headers, but the mufflers are Hall. Please post the info from Matsumoto when it is received.


Actually, the polished tip muffler is Mindtrain. Fred informed me that the mufflers look identical, but his has the polished tips. The Hall Big-Bores only came with the black tips. I checked with Hall and this is true.
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