Hi all
Where can one obtain GTS headers
(European clones) for my 73 stock pantera?
Help appreciated
Thanks
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Just about all of the US Pantera vendors list them as in stock. Hall, Wilkinson, etc.
Wilkinson has full stainless GTS headers and tailpipes. They have a ball union where the headers meet the tailpipes making alignment of the cans and chrome tips (actually polished stainless) at the back of the car painless. He has them for both Pre-L and L cars. You have to sand or grind the driver side motor mount a bit and move the gas tank shroud towards the tank a bit as well for clearance of the header on the driver side. I have installed them on two of my Panteras.
They sound great.
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The only negatieve from the Wilkingson headers , they are loud.
I have re construct my mufflers.
Simon
besides that stainless steel exhausts always have a different sound , the Wilkingson mufflers are to loud, they are to much open, like the original GTS/Gr3 mufflers.
but thats my personal opinion , maybe somebody else thinks different about this.
Simon
No clanging on either of my installations.
Anyone have experience with the headers sold by apantera performance, Dennis Quella??
I have a set of Hall Headers and Mufflers. I changed to PI Headers and Quella stainless exhaust, so I don't have a need for these anymore.
I did wrap them with heat shields but never ran them on the car like that. I think the mufflers can be cleaned up.
Not sure if these are the same style as GTS headers but I'm sure someone here can chime in.
John
Carefree, AZ.
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I know Rocky
Are they the European GTS copies?
Hall headers are not the same as the Euro GTS headers. The GTS headers are a tri-y design but the Hall’s are a 4 into 1. Also, the Euro GTS have larger primaries than the Hall headers.
Wilkinson's is showing the RH header 10025A as no longer available. LH gts header p/n 10026A $516, L&R gts exhaust $1,073 ea. I was told PIM that the GTS exhaust would not fit '72-'74 but didn't ask for specifics. Is that true?
I have been using GTS style headers from Dennis Quella, Pantera performance center in Castle rock Colorado for the last 50,000 miles. As David wrote, they are a tri-Y style header and I’ve had zero issues with them.
Dennis also offers a stainless muffler set, but anything you can see through is going to be a bit too loud for my personal tastes.
Larry
@jjones posted:I was told PIM that the GTS exhaust would not fit '72-'74 but didn't ask for specifics. Is that true?
They surely know that isn’t true. Not sure why they’d say that. No Pantera headers are 100% assured to fit out of the box. The usual issue is interference with the fuel tank shield. If it has ever been removed, it might not have been re-installed as close to the tank as it was originally. Usually, some heating and “persuasion” of the header is involved. I’d call Dennis or Adam Quella and see what they have.
Also, as Larry mentioned, any mufflers with a straight through design will be louder than baffled or chambered mufflers, however, they seem to be free from the dreaded drone.