Help with bearings

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Originally posted by Rich Moss 8MA514:
I'm in the process of restoring my goose that came in parts. I need some info on rear alxe bearing assy, (I don't know proper nomenclature of the parts but will do my best to describe) I have what I believe all the orginal bearings, races, spacers, shims, and what I believe to be dust cover. What I don't understand is did these units have any type of grease seals, inner or outer. I think these should be packed bearings but how does the grease say clean and not seep out when warmed up. I have always had great results using Lucas Sticky bearing grease, any other recommendations for these bearings?
If anyone would happen to have a picture or instructions with measurements and torque specs. that would also be appreciated.
I can be emailed at jettours@charter.net

I believe that they are sealed bearings and as such greased at the factory.
Current front wheel drive cars use a similar concept.

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Originally posted by PanteraDoug:

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Originally posted by Rich Moss 8MA514:
I'm in the process of restoring my goose that came in parts. I need some info on rear alxe bearing assy, (I don't know proper nomenclature of the parts but will do my best to describe) I have what I believe all the orginal bearings, races, spacers, shims, and what I believe to be dust cover. What I don't understand is did these units have any type of grease seals, inner or outer. I think these should be packed bearings but how does the grease say clean and not seep out when warmed up. I have always had great results using Lucas Sticky bearing grease, any other recommendations for these bearings?
If anyone would happen to have a picture or instructions with measurements and torque specs. that would also be appreciated.
I can be emailed at jettours@charter.net

I believe that they are sealed bearings and as such greased at the factory.
Current front wheel drive cars use a similar concept.

Thank you very much for your reply, but I don't think these bearing are a sealed type, they are timpken style or tapered roller bearings with out seals. The set up is very much like you would set up pinion bearings, shims are used for correct seating of bearings in the races. They could even be said to resemble front wheel bearing except adjustments are by shims rather than axle nut and cottor pin.
Would anybody know if they are the same set up on the Pantera.
Thanks
Rich

Is there a number stamped on the bearing? I don't remember if it crossed over. They may have been all by themselves in the book.
You may be able to modify the upright (or have it modified) to take an updated bearing as can be done for the Pantera, with a more available bearing.
That's worthwhile checking into now while it is apart.

If they are tapered roller bearings then they are not the same as Pantera. Pantera uses ball bearings.

I first want to thank everyone for their interest and information, it has been very helpful and given me some direction for more research.
To let everyone know what I have discovered is that the Goose did orginally take the sealed roller bearing but prior to my ownership someone with the idea of upgrading the strength of the rear axles and bearing system deceided to install timpken style tapered roller bearings, which I guess would have been a good idea if done properly. I understand that some have also done this on the Panteras but a much better installation and seal system.
I've deceided to remove these bearings and races and go to the upgraded sealed roller bearings. I'm not racing or anything like that so I feel this to be my most reasonable choice at this time.
Thanks again for all the info. I'm sure I will need more help in the future.
Rich M.

Sorry I couldn't help more. Goose part numbers are hard to cross reference.
You are going the correct way. Keep an ear out for unusual noise in the rear after you drive it a couple of hundred miles.
You will want to check it for tightness at that point. There is nothing wrong then, the bearings will loosen just a bit. Once they are "specked up" they will stay that way a long time.
You will also need to drive the car to keep everything tight, don't let it sit too long.

Thanks for the info, I will do exactly as you say. I do hope to drive it a couple of hundred miles some day. To date I have never even driven in a Mangusta. I bought this one all in pieces and slowly learning more and more. Everything seems to be going pretty well and all the information I have found here in previous post has been very helpful. My hopes are to be completed by next winter. I live in a rural area which makes thing a bit more difficult. Everything has to be shipped out and takes two to three weeks for their return. Still waiting on suspension parts to come back from coating, maybe this week! So far I have only found one part missing and that was a throwout bearing and collar which I just happened to find the correct NOS on ebay.
Thanks Again
Rich