Hi Torque Starter

I got a high torque starter with my new engine Ron. But I didn't put it in so I can't tell you. I do know the guy who did put it in said it was real hard to do it right and he was a mechanic with over fourty years of experiance, so I was just glad it was him putting it in and not me. No it is not normal for it to stay engauged after starting.

I had mine out then back in when I had the transaxil swapped. Bolts very hard to get to. It's coming out soon. Anything you want me to look at?

Ok, i got reamed for this post before, but it is a common problem. If the pinon gear and flywheel gear are too close together, they will not release upon starting. Not a "common" issue with fords as with chevy's shimmin' is required to fix the problem. So moving the pinon gear away from the flywheel it provides better clearance to allow the gear mesh to release. So trying to turn the starter away from the flywheel using the bolt hole slop might provide clearance to allow the starter pinon gear to release.

Worst case require, opening the bolt pattern to allow for more shift of the starter away from the flywheel.

cheers

Detom,

Detom .. I had this problem before.

Gary .. Did you have a problem with it staying engaged for a split second longer then normal.

Rover .. I thought of that but O guess I have to enlongate the holes on the starter , but thought I would ask before I did that. I did try on the other car to shim it away from the bell housing .. thinking maybe it was engaged to deep .. didnt work. The factory starter has studs which end up too short for the beefy Hi torque. So I used bolts. Ok gotta rip it our and try moving it away from the flywheel

Thanks guys.

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Originally posted by accobra:
Detom,

Yes Ron??????

Ron I have never had a problem like that with mine. It has always worked fine.

Gary

Ok so thats not something thats supposed to happen. So I will get it up in the air and elongate the holes on the starter and trin the shield.

Thanks. Funny my 428CJ had the same problem ???

Come on...DON'T do that!!!. Make sure you have the right starter. Ford has 3 different starters for the small blocks for 3 diffferent flywheels(auto/manual). You shouldn't have to do anything, but install and start. What brand starter do you have?

I have to look it up .. Icant remember who I bought it from. If it was PI I would have thought it was the correct one... but thanks I'll check .. I would think I gave them the right spec ??? 351C standard trans ??

Ron

Yeah, I'd check the P/N. Let me know what you find out. I'll have to check the tooth count on the flywheel so that you can check if it the right one. Also, I'll give you the P/N on the high torque starter that I purchased. It installed with no problems.

Installed mine last fall and have had no problems at all. Purchased from Wilkinson

If you have a jumper at the solenoid on the starter and are using the original solenoid as an in line switch between the battery and the starter you will have a problem with run on when you release the key. Change the wiring as I describe and see what happens. Disconnect the battery first. Move the cable that goes from the solenoid to the starter to the same terminal as the cable coming from the battery. Now remove the small jumper from the solenoid at the starter and run a new wire from the small terinal to the post on the firewall mounted solenoid that you removed the starter cable from. PI Motorsports should have this diagram as I sent it to them a couple years ago. Try this and I bet you will have the problem solved.
Forest

Bought a starter from JEG's and same problem, starts the engine great but would not release from flywheel, cause = wrong starter, needed a 0.70" shim to move starter gear away from flywheel, works great now..... John

I agree with forestg. you should install per the wiring instructions or the bendix will not retract.
johrt...you probably have an automatic starter, that why you had to shim.
Ford should have made one starter fits all, but didn't. They had 3 different tooth counts on the small block engines...best I remember 157, 163 and 165. Depending on with combo you had (tooth+ auto or manual)determined you starter.